Anybody using OpenOffice 2.04 (Linux) under Xandros?

[BillW50]

In news:slrnhmhk38.8fe.SDA@laptop.sweetpig.dyndns.org,
S. Fishpaste typed on Tue, 2 Feb 2010 20:24:56 -0500:
> On Tue, 2 Feb 2010 07:21:15 -0600, BillW50 in comp.sys.laptops wrote:
>> In news:slrnhm6adk.6mf.SDA@laptop.sweetpig.dyndns.org,
>> S. Fishpaste typed on Fri, 29 Jan 2010 132:20 -0500:
>>> Do yourself a favour, grab the latest Ubuntu, install it and be a
>>> happy camper.
>>
>> Well this is day 6 of using Ubuntu 9.04. And while it is impressive
>> and gets a passing grade in almost all categories except for
>> multimedia. There it fails miserably. Even Xandros plays more media
>> files than Ubuntu does. Also any Linux is very CPU intensive playing
>> media files.
>
> Use a lighter window manager then. Read up on how to play multimedia.
> I can play anything, including Apple Quicktime.

Sounds good.

>> While it is true that Linux needs less RAM than Windows does. No
>> problem there. But when it comes to multimedia, Linux needs a far
>> more powerful CPU than Windows ever did. Even netbooks has a lot of
>> RAM, but low on CPU power. So even on netbooks it makes more sense
>> to run Windows vs. Linux. At least if you want to run multimedia too.
>
> B$ You simply need to learn how to use it with the proper tools. You
> can't expect to install soemthing and the next day be the expert. If
> you prefer Windows, than by all means stick to it. No one is saying
> you must use Linux.

You don't have to be a rocket scientist to see the difference. Linux
eats up lots of processor time for multimedia. Barry says it because
Linux doesn't have the equivalent of DirectX. And I tend to agree.

>> I listen to about 4 hours of media files a day. So this is very
>> important to me. Streaming tech and science stuff if you must know.
>> And it seems crazy to me to run Linux and have a Windows machine
>> running too, just to play the media files. As why bother running
>> Linux at all? As why not just use a Windows machine alone?
>
> Indeed you should stick with what you know, MSFT Windows. You have to
> be prepared to use any product for at least a month, daily, in order
> to have a genuine feel as to it's capabilities, and to get oneself
> up-to-speed with those..
>
> The fact that many pros use Linux to produce multimedia content
> notwithstanding. The problem you have is between the chair and the
> keyboard.

First, I have been using Linux for years. Secondly, I am sure there are
people using very expensive, high powered processors to produce
multimedia under Linux.

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 702G8 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Windows XP SP2

 

[BillW50]

In news:hka98n$8ui$2@reader2.panix.com,
the wharf rat typed on Tue, 2 Feb 2010 223:59 +0000 (UTC):
> In article <hka2m3$q22$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
> BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>>
>> Ubuntu doesn't like the format in Windows Media format
>
> lol.
>
> Have you tried mpeg?

Yup, mpeg works just fine. Although I have 100GB worth of files in
Windows Media format. I never got Ubuntu to play DVD format yet either.

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 702G8 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Windows XP SP2

 

[BillW50]

In news:slrnhmhjkv.8fe.SDA@laptop.sweetpig.dyndns.org,
S. Fishpaste typed on Tue, 2 Feb 2010 20:17:19 -0500:
> On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 17:16:14 -0600, BillW50 in comp.sys.laptops wrote:
>> S. Fishpaste wrote on Fri, 29 Jan 2010 132:20 -0500:
>>> On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 15:54:26 -0600, BillW50 in comp.sys.laptops
>>> wrote:
>>>> In news:slrnhm1lqa.72t.SDA@laptop.sweetpig.dyndns.org,
>>>> S. Fishpaste typed on Wed, 27 Jan 2010 19:16:10 -0500:
>>>>> Why don't you use a modern Linux distro like Ubuntu? It's made for
>>>>> folks like you and works on EEEPCs -- I installed it on several
>>>>> for clients. Works out of the box; everything including the
>>>>> camera. You'll aslo get a modern version of OOo. Xandros is a POS
>>>>> IMO.
>>>> Tried Ubuntu years ago and it never even loaded on any computer I
>>>> ever tried. I still have the CD and I believe it never worked
>>>> because the CD was corrupt.
>>>
>>> So I tried a Windoze install years ago and it never worked -- I
>>> still use windows though. ;-D
>>
>> Yeah I heard that before from a few. I guess Windows and some people
>> just doesn't get along too well.
>>
>>> Do yourself a favour, grab the latest Ubuntu, install it and be a
>>> happy camper.
>>
>> Yeah, AJL talked me into that hours ago. It is running and the WiFi,
>> Webcam, mic, sound, etc are all working. Which is a first for
>> Ubuntu. As earlier versions, always something wouldn't work right.
>> Although I need to work on why it doesn't like multimedia files and
>> DVDs right now.
>
> So you're a slow learner/obtuse. It was suggested to you longer than a
> few hours ago. Glad you finally took the advice I and others have
> given you.

Slow learner, eh? And I learn the same thing as I had before. The
exception is that Ubuntu 9.04 does seem to work with many devices. That
is the only new thing. Otherwise it is all of the same as before.

>>> Re poorly written applications -- You'll find that anywhere. There
>>> are a sh*tload of Windoze applicatons written poorly to. There are
>>> some great applications that run on Linux, you just have to know
>>> what you're doing.
>>
>> I sort of doubt that. As I am still looking for the good Linux stuff.
>
> Doubt all you want, doesn't mean you actually know what you're talking
> about! Linux is the kernel, NOT the applications running on that
> kernel.

Of course Linux is just a kernel. Although the beauty of a kernel is
that it allows applications to run even when the OS code changes. I
think of the kernel as an index (pointer) for OS calls.

> If you want examples of good written quality Linux and GNU
> applications, all you have to do is take a look at Debian.

Both Xandros and Ubuntu uses Debian applications. So what am I missing?

> Linux the kernel & GNU are often used in far more demanding roles than
> any MSFT Windows OS is/are. Trust me when I say that your NSA sure as
> hell doesn't use MSFT Windows! They use hardened Linux old boy.

While rootkits are relatively new in the Windows world, they have been
plaguing *nix users for almost the past 20 years now.

> First thing many of us UNIX do is install GNU applications on
> other Operating Systems <ie> always goes on any Solaris installation
> I'm responsible for. That's because many of the GNU applications are
> written damn well. If you have experience, you should have known this.

Don't use Solaris, sorry. Nor does 99.9% of the world does either.

> Of course if your only experience has been Xandros etc., and many of
> the projects on Freshmeat or SourceForge, then you're forgiven for not
> knowing what you're talking about. Most of the projects on Freshmeat
> are written by compsi students, so they're not expected to be at the
> height of their competency. That's why they're in school.

I've used Xandros for the last couple of years because it works. While
Ubuntu and Puppy Linux does not. Well okay 9.04 does work, but like all
Linux I've tried, are terrible in the multimedia department. At least my
three year old Xandros can handle more multimedia file types than Ubuntu
9.04 can so far.

>>> If you have UNIX experience it's much easier -- But as a
>>> programmer you sure don't seem very familiar with source files ...
>>
>> That was years ago when all we had was WordStar, dBase, and
>> SuperCalc. If you wanted anything else, you had to write your own
>> programs. And I sure did a lot back then. Then when applications
>> became plentiful, I was more than happy to let others do it.
>
> Well I wrote machine code circa 35 years ago and am still doing so
> today.

Are you sure you are writing machine code? I did that many years ago
too. But everybody I knew gave that up about 30 years ago. And they use
assembly language instead of machine code. Which is more or less the
same thing. Although assembly is a program language that generates
machine code for you. Which is much easier to use than to think in 1's
and 0's, and all of those logic gates.

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows XP SP3

 

[the wharf rat]

In article <hkehau$ljq$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>
>Yup, mpeg works just fine. Although I have 100GB worth of files in
>Windows Media format. I never got Ubuntu to play DVD format yet either.
>

"DVD format" ?

 

[BillW50]

In news:hkeshk$1l8$1@reader2.panix.com,
the wharf rat typed on Thu, 4 Feb 2010 16:272 +0000 (UTC):
> In article <hkehau$ljq$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
> BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>>
>> Yup, mpeg works just fine. Although I have 100GB worth of files in
>> Windows Media format. I never got Ubuntu to play DVD format yet
>> either.
>>
>
> "DVD format" ?

Boy you are out of the technology loop, aren't you? DVD format means
"Digital Versatile Disc or Digital Video Disc". It was developed and
invented by Sony, Panasonic and Samsung in 1995. All of those DVD movies
you see in the stores (you have stores in your part of the world,
right?) are in DVD format.

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows XP SP3

 

[the wharf rat]

In article <hkeha2$lej$2@news.eternal-september.org>,
BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>
>You don't have to be a rocket scientist to see the difference. Linux
>eats up lots of processor time for multimedia. Barry says it because
>Linux doesn't have the equivalent of DirectX. And I tend to agree.
>

You're probably seeing sampling error from whatever tool you're
using to estimate cpu usage. There are a few issues with that stuff on
that 2.6 kernels when they're used under particular application loads.

Anyway, how do you knwo what the cpu load is since you've never been
able to get anything to run?

If you're still having trouble with this look into xine:

http://www.xine-project.org/home

 

[the wharf rat]

In article <hkev18$i21$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>
>invented by Sony, Panasonic and Samsung in 1995. All of those DVD movies
>you see in the stores (you have stores in your part of the world,
>right?) are in DVD format.
>

No, they're MPEGs.

 

[BillW50]

In news:hkg8kh$kbh$1@reader2.panix.com,
the wharf rat typed on Fri, 5 Feb 2010 05:00:01 +0000 (UTC):
> In article <hkeha2$lej$2@news.eternal-september.org>,
> BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>>
>> You don't have to be a rocket scientist to see the difference. Linux
>> eats up lots of processor time for multimedia. Barry says it because
>> Linux doesn't have the equivalent of DirectX. And I tend to agree.
>
> You're probably seeing sampling error from whatever tool you're
> using to estimate cpu usage. There are a few issues with that stuff
> on that 2.6 kernels when they're used under particular application
> loads.
>
> Anyway, how do you knwo what the cpu load is since you've never been
> able to get anything to run?

I don't need any tools. All I need is how well I can multitask. Running
multimedia under Linux and everything else goes to crap.

> If you're still having trouble with this look into xine:
>
> http://www.xine-project.org/home

Oh wonderful! More crap loaded on more crap... yes that will work well,
won't it?

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows XP SP3

 

[BillW50]

In news:hkg8m3$kbh$2@reader2.panix.com,
the wharf rat typed on Fri, 5 Feb 2010 05:00:51 +0000 (UTC):
> In article <hkev18$i21$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
> BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>>
>> invented by Sony, Panasonic and Samsung in 1995. All of those DVD
>> movies you see in the stores (you have stores in your part of the
>> world, right?) are in DVD format.
>
> No, they're MPEGs.

The video is but the audio is not.

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows XP SP3

 

[the wharf rat]

In article <hkg9bm$sdq$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>
>The video is but the audio is not.
>

That's PCM.

 

[the wharf rat]

In article <hkg97u$rn8$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>
>I don't need any tools. All I need is how well I can multitask. Running
>multimedia under Linux and everything else goes to crap.
>
I don't think you're doing it right.
>>
>> http://www.xine-project.org/home
>
>Oh wonderful! More crap loaded on more crap... yes that will work well,
>won't it?
>

Works good for me. I built mine though, didn't use the rpm's.

 

[AJL]

"BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:

>The Ubuntu Netbook Remix is the latest version 9.04.

Found this on a Ubuntu newsgroup. Since there is no easy way to use a
link I'll just lift it. Just thought it might prove interesting.
Course it doesn't cover your DVD problems...
------------------------
I recently acquired a Gateway 2104u Netbook with Windows 7 on it. I
wanted to play around a bit with it by loading Linux on it. I hadn't
actually done anything with Linux since Caldera came out to give you a
timeframe.

Ubuntu Network Remix (UNR) is a Linux distribution optimized to some
extent for the netbook environment. It is designed to be easy and
simple to install and to look and work well on netbooks. It is very
successful based on my narrow experience.

Installation :
UNR is supposed to be loadable on a flash stick and installable or
runable from it. I never could get this netbook to boot from it. I
tend to think it is something in this particular netbook because other
reports are that it works fine.

So I created a DVD from the downloaded iso. Booted into it and tested
it running from the DVD. Everything seemed to work well enough to
want
to do the install.

So I started the install from the DVD. All went smoothly, and the
default partitioning scheme is to split the drive nearly in half so
that
you can switch between UNR and some other OS, in this case W7.
Install
took 10-15 minutes, start to finish and when it booted things were
mostly good.

It didn't automatically use the wireless NIC in this netbook, so I had
to do a simple configuration in Network Connections. Enter the SSID
of
the network, specify security type, and give the passphrase. Then it
worked fine. So I think it saw it, just didn't set it up
automatically.

As an aside, I did later fiddle around and reinstall UNR, and the
second
time it did pick up the wireless and made the setup slightly simpler,
mostly because it prompted for it.

All else worked fine. Wired NIC, sound, video, touchpad, keyboard.
No
glitches.

A nice plus was that UNR is easier on the eyes on this small 10"
widescreen than is W7. No squinting or reading glasses needed for my
old eyes.

Performance:

Superb! I had expected that it would be better than W7 in the uses I
had for it, and it is, but only slightly. Snappy and responsive are
good words to describe the performance under either OS. I was a bit
surprised at that as I expected that a 1.6Ghz Atom wouldn't perform
well.

Random thoughts:

I use a netbook for ebook reading and watching Hulu at home, in bed.
With UNR, the Hulu experience is very good, better than under windows.
But the ebook reading is poorer by far. I got the FBReader program
and
it works fine with my pdb files, but it is just not a very good ebook
reader, imo. Which seems strange as some of the dedicated ebook
hardware is running Linux, you'd think there were better ebook readers
available. But it isn't the case.

Yes, I know, I could read with Adobe or the browser, but neither of
those are as slick as eReaderPro which is available for OSX, Windows
and
the iPhone/iPod Touch.

When on a trip, the netbook would fill in to do email, web surfing,
usenet, ebooks and some video. UNR can fill all those quite well,
with
the exception of the ebook reading.

In all this, I actually attempted to take the netbook back to w7 only.
But the recovery DVDs don't repartition, so things just didn't work
well. To the point that it would start grub then reboot over and over
again.

So I opted to reinstall UNR. On the second install, I had to do the
partitioning manually because the default wanted to split the HD up
even
more which wasn't what I wanted.

Overall:

UNR is a good choice as only or second OS on a Netbook based on my
limited experience with it. The only hole for me is the ebook reading
and that is just a missing good Linux app for it.

Otherwise, everything else works as expected. Install is very easy
for
someone with some knowledge of installing an OS from scratch. I
wouldn't want to give a DVD to my mom (she's 89) to install, but then
I
wouldn't give her a W7 DVD to install either.

Lloyd

 

[BillW50]

AJL wrote:
> "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>
>> The Ubuntu Netbook Remix is the latest version 9.04.
>
> Found this on a Ubuntu newsgroup. Since there is no easy way to use a
> link I'll just lift it. Just thought it might prove interesting.
> Course it doesn't cover your DVD problems...

Many thanks AJL! Very interesting read. I never tried Hulu yet, but
playing Youtube videos wasn't too impressive. And just playing low
quality MP3 at 32k eats up half of the processor power. This netbook has
a 900MHz Celeron. Although it is under clocked down to 633MHz. Yet
Windows on this same machine can handle 10 times faster streams than
Ubuntu can.

Are you playing DVD on your Ubuntu machine? Have you tried other media
files with it?

I think I deleted my add favorite application from Ubuntu. As I can't
find it on the desktop anymore. Although I found out that I can drag and
drop apps there anyway. So I don't know if I really need it or not. I'm
sure there is a way to get it back. lol

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 702G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Ubuntu 9.10 Netbook Remix

 

[AJL]

BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:

>Are you playing DVD on your Ubuntu machine?

No. My purpose with Ubuntu is to use it in *addition* to Windows, not
as a replacement. My understanding is that there are legal reasons why
all the commercial codacs don't come with the original installation of
Ubuntu. However from what I read they can be found and installed with
a little work. I just don't play commercial DVDs enough and of course
Windows is still there when I do want to preview one...

>Have you tried other media files with it?

All the media files I've tried so far have worked. But again if you
need one that you find doesn't work, Google is your friend...

>I think I deleted my add favorite application from Ubuntu. As I can't
>find it on the desktop anymore... I'm sure there is a way to get it back. lol

The package manager that comes in the full version is very easy to use
and is pointed (locked) to the official repository so it's hard to get
into trouble. I've installed and uninstalled maybe 20 or 30 apps now
just to try them and nary a problem...and never a need to
reboot...take that Windows!!

However when I do want to try something from somewhere else I use the
Synaptic package manager (which I also use on my 2G Surf). It's easy
to use and very versatile.

 

[BillW50]

In news:f3rtm5pfs1v8j11cu95kioa1jtblgevruc@4ax.com,
AJL typed on Sun, 07 Feb 2010 10:10:56 -0700:
> BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>
>> Are you playing DVD on your Ubuntu machine?
>
> No. My purpose with Ubuntu is to use it in *addition* to Windows, not
> as a replacement.

Oh I see! People told me for many years that Linux could replace what we
are now doing under Windows. And I never saw that yet. And that is why I
call Linux as a glorified PDA OS. Although it seems like the iPhone can
actually do more than Linux can nowadays.

> My understanding is that there are legal reasons why
> all the commercial codacs don't come with the original installation of
> Ubuntu. However from what I read they can be found and installed with
> a little work. I just don't play commercial DVDs enough and of course
> Windows is still there when I do want to preview one...

Windows XP can't natively play DVD videos either. But there was always
PowerDVD and WinDVD that came with many OEM versions that included them.
And you can install for free K-Lite to play them too if you wanted too.

>> Have you tried other media files with it?
>
> All the media files I've tried so far have worked. But again if you
> need one that you find doesn't work, Google is your friend...

All of my Windows machines have a temp gauge. So I would like on that
Ubuntu machine too. So I Googled it and I found one. Although after I
read all that was involved to install it, I put it on the list of things
to do later list. Things are so much easier to do under Windows.

>> I think I deleted my add favorite application from Ubuntu. As I can't
>> find it on the desktop anymore... I'm sure there is a way to get it
>> back. lol
>
> The package manager that comes in the full version is very easy to use
> and is pointed (locked) to the official repository so it's hard to get
> into trouble. I've installed and uninstalled maybe 20 or 30 apps now
> just to try them and nary a problem...and never a need to
> reboot...take that Windows!!

I mean that Ubuntu tab desktop that has that Favorites tab. Xandros in
Easy Mode has the same thing. And an utility to add or remove
applications from this tab. And I must have deleted the utility since I
don't see it anymore.

> However when I do want to try something from somewhere else I use the
> Synaptic package manager (which I also use on my 2G Surf). It's easy
> to use and very versatile.

Ubuntu Netbook Remix only takes up 2.3GB here. I don't know if it can
install with a little less applications that would fit on your Surf or
not.

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 702G8 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Windows XP SP2

 

[AJL]

"BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:

>AJL typed on Sun, 07 Feb 2010 10:10:56 -0700:
>> BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:

>>My purpose with Ubuntu is to use it in *addition* to Windows, not
>> as a replacement.
>
>Oh I see! People told me for many years that Linux could replace what we
>are now doing under Windows.

Depends on what your needs are. It appears from what I've seen so far
that I could do what *I* need under Ubuntu alone. But I don't have to
since I also have Windows. With me it's a hobby, not a religion...

>I call Linux as a glorified PDA OS. Although it seems like the iPhone can
>actually do more than Linux can nowadays.

A troll baiting statement and beneath you Bill. If you really want to
learn how to do something you can't figure out ask a specific
question. Preferably in an Ubuntu group. If you just religiously hate
Linux why are you torturing yourself?

>I mean that Ubuntu tab desktop that has that Favorites tab. Xandros in
>Easy Mode has the same thing. And an utility to add or remove
>applications from this tab. And I must have deleted the utility since I
>don't see it anymore.

Again, you may want to try the *full* Ubuntu install. There are no
tabs on my (Gnome) desktop. The built in package manager on my version
is called the Ubuntu Software Center and is accessed from the
Applications menu.

 

[BillW50]

In news:k1cum5h6s5irbagkiubvacvqmvbob67991@4ax.com,
AJL typed on Sun, 07 Feb 2010 14:58:42 -0700:
> "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>
>> AJL typed on Sun, 07 Feb 2010 10:10:56 -0700:
>>> BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>
>>> My purpose with Ubuntu is to use it in *addition* to Windows, not
>>> as a replacement.
>>
>> Oh I see! People told me for many years that Linux could replace
>> what we are now doing under Windows.
>
> Depends on what your needs are. It appears from what I've seen so far
> that I could do what *I* need under Ubuntu alone. But I don't have to
> since I also have Windows. With me it's a hobby, not a religion...

I would *love* to use Linux *only*! And I have been told zillions of
times that Linux *can*. But every time I check it out, Linux cant! So
Linux supporters are a lot like politicians as far as I can tell. Lots
of promises and they don't honor any of their promises. And I have been
hearing this for about 15 years now. And frankly, it is getting a little
old.

>> I call Linux as a glorified PDA OS. Although it seems like the
>> iPhone can actually do more than Linux can nowadays.
>
> A troll baiting statement and beneath you Bill. If you really want to
> learn how to do something you can't figure out ask a specific
> question. Preferably in an Ubuntu group. If you just religiously hate
> Linux why are you torturing yourself?

Nope no troll baiting! Just telling it like it is. Why do you think
there are so many Google hits on removing Linux for (over a million
hits)? It just isn't just me, but the masses are not buying it either.
There are very few people who are willing to keep Linux on their
machines. Remember Linux machines for sale just doesn't sell. There is a
good reason for this.

>> I mean that Ubuntu tab desktop that has that Favorites tab. Xandros
>> in Easy Mode has the same thing. And an utility to add or remove
>> applications from this tab. And I must have deleted the utility
>> since I don't see it anymore.
>
> Again, you may want to try the *full* Ubuntu install. There are no
> tabs on my (Gnome) desktop. The built in package manager on my version
> is called the Ubuntu Software Center and is accessed from the
> Applications menu.

I have Ubuntu Software Center under mine too, but it is in a tab and not
under a menu. I'll try the other version when I have some more time.
They are almost the same size, so I don't know what the big difference
would be? The netbook remix is supposed to be friendlier to smaller
screens. Otherwise it is supposed to be the same thing.

Say, do you use Thunderbird? I am getting a lot of screen flashes with
it under Ubuntu. Maybe it happens under other applications too, but I
haven't noticed it yet. I don't know what trips it, multitasking in the
background or something.

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 702G8 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Windows XP SP2

 

[AJL]

"BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:

>Why do you think there are so many Google hits on removing
>Linux for (over a million hits)?

OK, I'll try your logic Bill. Whoa...you get over *36 million* hits
when you Google "I hate Windows".

>Say, do you use Thunderbird? I am getting a lot of
>screen flashes with it under Ubuntu.

Screen flashes? Hey, I'll bet you have a defective 'flash' drive. Boy
that spoils your perfect record huh...

 

[BillW50]

In news:a1sum5hi0tqrmt8vb8ulrbt1n0g3p6ip18@4ax.com,
AJL typed on Sun, 07 Feb 2010 19:18:12 -0700:
> "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>
>> Why do you think there are so many Google hits on removing
>> Linux for (over a million hits)?
>
> OK, I'll try your logic Bill. Whoa...you get over *36 million* hits
> when you Google "I hate Windows".

Yet over 90% use Windows and less than 1% use Linux. That is almost a
hundred to one. So when you get around 100 million hits, now we are
talking. And I want to use Linux, but it isn't ready for prime time yet.
It fails too much as a general purpose OS. It only does what a wimpy PDA
does (just larger screens and keyboards).

The Ubuntu manual states that it only does MP3. WMA, and AAC formats.
How in the world are you going to attract anybody with just three file
formats? And I can tell you WMA doesn't work right. So that leaves just
MP3 and AAC. I know MP3 works, but I have nothing in AAC format to test.
Maybe that one is dead too for all I know.

>> Say, do you use Thunderbird? I am getting a lot of
>> screen flashes with it under Ubuntu.
>
> Screen flashes? Hey, I'll bet you have a defective 'flash' drive. Boy
> that spoils your perfect record huh...

Then I install it on a hard drive and the same dang thing happens, then
what? Just more broken promises?

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 702G8 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Windows XP SP2

 

[AJL]

"BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:

>AJL typed on Sun, 07 Feb 2010 19:18:12 -0700:

>The Ubuntu manual states that it only does MP3. WMA, and AAC formats.

If you need a format that's not included then more formats can be
added, but then I repeat myself.

>but I have nothing in AAC format to test.
>Maybe that one is dead too for all I know.

Complaining about a format you haven't even tried??

>>>I am getting a lot of
>>> screen flashes with it under Ubuntu.
>>
>> Screen flashes? Hey, I'll bet you have a defective 'flash' drive. Boy
>> that spoils your perfect record huh...
>
>Then I install it on a hard drive and the same dang thing happens, then
>what? Just more broken promises?

That was a joke Bill. *Flashes* on the screen, *flash drive*...get it?
No I suppose not. It's become apparent to me that you really don't
want to get Linux working, but seem to just want to complain about it.
Perhaps a shrink could help but I obviously can't. So you have the
last word on the subject...