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Antivirus recomendations??

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by doncee, Jun 26, 2010.

  1. doncee

    doncee Flightless Bird

    Need to rid myself of NAV on my XP machine. Installed latest version in
    April & have had numerous boot up & other errors ever since. Am thinking
    of Avast or AVG as a replacement along w\ Spybot. Any pro's or con's on
    these or on some others that should look in to. Thanks in advance
    dc
     
  2. Unknown

    Unknown Flightless Bird

    Why not just use MSE?
    "doncee" <nopsamdbc9814@nospamswbell.wanted> wrote in message
    news:Xns9DA361B9E4A39nospamdbc9814nospam@216.196.97.131...
    > Need to rid myself of NAV on my XP machine. Installed latest version in
    > April & have had numerous boot up & other errors ever since. Am thinking
    > of Avast or AVG as a replacement along w\ Spybot. Any pro's or con's on
    > these or on some others that should look in to. Thanks in advance
    > dc
     
  3. Bruce Hagen

    Bruce Hagen Flightless Bird

    "doncee" <nopsamdbc9814@nospamswbell.wanted> wrote in message
    news:Xns9DA361B9E4A39nospamdbc9814nospam@216.196.97.131...
    > Need to rid myself of NAV on my XP machine. Installed latest version in
    > April & have had numerous boot up & other errors ever since. Am thinking
    > of Avast or AVG as a replacement along w\ Spybot. Any pro's or con's on
    > these or on some others that should look in to. Thanks in advance
    > dc




    You will get plenty of opinions, all may be well founded. Personally, I
    would go with MSE. Anti-Virus, Anti-Spam and Anti-Malware rolled into one.

    Microsoft Security Essentials
    http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/default.aspx

    My second choice would be Avast + Windows Defender.

    Avast:
    http://www.avast.com/eng/download-avast-home.html

    Choose Custom Installation and opt out of e-mail scanning.

    Windows Defender:
    http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx

    Whatever you choose, this is a must.

    Norton Removal Tool
    http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2005033108162039

    Get all that crap off your machine for good.
    --
    Bruce Hagen
    MS-MVP [Mail]
    Imperial Beach, CA
     
  4. Ken Blake, MVP

    Ken Blake, MVP Flightless Bird

    On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 09:36:27 -0500, doncee
    <nopsamdbc9814@nospamswbell.wanted> wrote:

    > Need to rid myself of NAV on my XP machine. Installed latest version in
    > April & have had numerous boot up & other errors ever since. Am thinking
    > of Avast or AVG as a replacement along w\ Spybot. Any pro's or con's on
    > these or on some others that should look in to. Thanks in advance



    Getting rid of NAV is an excellent thing to do.

    Avast is a good choice, and a much better one than AVG. Here's my
    standard post on the subject:

    For an anti-virus program, I recommend eSet NOD32, if you are willing
    to pay for it. If you want a free anti-virus, I recommend one of the
    following three:

    Avira
    Avast
    Microsoft Security Essentials

    You also need anti-spyware software. I recommend that you download and
    install (both freeware) MalwareBytes AntiMalware *and*
    SuperAntiSpyware.


    --
    Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
    Please Reply to the Newsgroup
     
  5. Anthony Buckland

    Anthony Buckland Flightless Bird

    "doncee" <nopsamdbc9814@nospamswbell.wanted> wrote in message
    news:Xns9DA361B9E4A39nospamdbc9814nospam@216.196.97.131...
    > Need to rid myself of NAV on my XP machine. Installed latest version in
    > April & have had numerous boot up & other errors ever since. Am thinking
    > of Avast or AVG as a replacement along w\ Spybot. Any pro's or con's on
    > these or on some others that should look in to. Thanks in advance
    > dc


    I use ZoneAlarm Extreme Security. Partly, I suppose,
    because that package's predecessor was the
    first good product I came across after escaping from
    Norton and McAfee.
     
  6. doncee

    doncee Flightless Bird

    doncee <nopsamdbc9814@nospamswbell.wanted> wrote in
    news:Xns9DA361B9E4A39nospamdbc9814nospam@216.196.97.131:

    > Need to rid myself of NAV on my XP machine. Installed latest version

    in
    > April & have had numerous boot up & other errors ever since. Am

    thinking
    > of Avast or AVG as a replacement along w\ Spybot. Any pro's or con's

    on
    > these or on some others that should look in to. Thanks in advance
    > dc
    >


    Thanks to all of you for your tips and advice. Exacty what I was
    looking for.
    thnx again
    dc
     
  7. bobster

    bobster Flightless Bird

    I'm using Microsoft Security Essentials + Windows Firewall. Yeah, I know
    the latter doesn't protect from outgoing stuff but with MSE there never is
    any outgoing. I also use the free versions of Malwarebytes and
    SUPERAntiSpyware once a week as an added safety measure. They rarely find
    anything except an occasional tracking cookie.

    =======================================
    "doncee" <nopsamdbc9814@nospamswbell.wanted> wrote in message
    news:Xns9DA361B9E4A39nospamdbc9814nospam@216.196.97.131...
    Need to rid myself of NAV on my XP machine. Installed latest version in
    April & have had numerous boot up & other errors ever since. Am thinking
    of Avast or AVG as a replacement along w\ Spybot. Any pro's or con's on
    these or on some others that should look in to. Thanks in advance
    dc
     
  8. Ken Blake, MVP

    Ken Blake, MVP Flightless Bird

    On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 11:52:41 -0700, "bobster" <fauxie@bogus.net>
    wrote:

    > I'm using Microsoft Security Essentials + Windows Firewall. Yeah, I know
    > the latter doesn't protect from outgoing stuff



    Although I used to recommend third-party firewalls because of their
    outward protection, I've more recently become convinced that outward
    protection is an illusion. Once one of the nasties gets into your
    computer, it can essentially do whatever it wants, including
    circumventing the firewall. So the extra protection that a firewall
    that monitors outbound traffic provides is more apparent than real.



    > but with MSE there never is
    > any outgoing. I also use the free versions of Malwarebytes and
    > SUPERAntiSpyware once a week as an added safety measure. They rarely find
    > anything except an occasional tracking cookie.



    Two excellent choices.

    --
    Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
    Please Reply to the Newsgroup
     
  9. mm

    mm Flightless Bird

    On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 07:57:35 -0700, "Bruce Hagen" <BRH@nospam.invalid>
    wrote:

    >
    >"doncee" <nopsamdbc9814@nospamswbell.wanted> wrote in message
    >news:Xns9DA361B9E4A39nospamdbc9814nospam@216.196.97.131...
    >> Need to rid myself of NAV on my XP machine. Installed latest version in
    >> April & have had numerous boot up & other errors ever since. Am thinking
    >> of Avast or AVG as a replacement along w\ Spybot. Any pro's or con's on
    >> these or on some others that should look in to. Thanks in advance
    >> dc

    >
    >
    >
    >You will get plenty of opinions, all may be well founded. Personally, I
    >would go with MSE. Anti-Virus, Anti-Spam and Anti-Malware rolled into one.
    >
    >Microsoft Security Essentials
    >http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/default.aspx


    Isn't this the one that keeps telling my friend his security is out of
    date, whenever he logs on the first time each day.

    AVG etc. at least try to update the definitions before they complain
    that they are out of date.

    Others snipped.
     
  10. Bruce Hagen

    Bruce Hagen Flightless Bird

    <snip>

    "mm" <NOPSAMmm2005@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
    news:jcpc26hcngksfn6dendb10rdcsepfmd6d9@4ax.com...
    >>You will get plenty of opinions, all may be well founded. Personally, I
    >>would go with MSE. Anti-Virus, Anti-Spam and Anti-Malware rolled into
    >>one.
    >>
    >>Microsoft Security Essentials
    >>http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/default.aspx

    >
    > Isn't this the one that keeps telling my friend his security is out of
    > date, whenever he logs on the first time each day.
    >
    > AVG etc. at least try to update the definitions before they complain
    > that they are out of date.



    I don't know. Who's your friend? I have no problem with MSE. It updates in
    the background without doing anything. (At least for me).
    --
    Bruce Hagen
    MS-MVP [Mail]
    Imperial Beach, CA
     
  11. Hot-Text

    Hot-Text Flightless Bird

    Go with Yahoo ToolBar

    https://yahoo.cainternetsecurity.net/



    "doncee" <nopsamdbc9814@nospamswbell.wanted> wrote in message
    news:Xns9DA361B9E4A39nospamdbc9814nospam@216.196.97.131...
    > Need to rid myself of NAV on my XP machine. Installed latest version in
    > April & have had numerous boot up & other errors ever since. Am thinking
    > of Avast or AVG as a replacement along w\ Spybot. Any pro's or con's on
    > these or on some others that should look in to. Thanks in advance
    > dc
     
  12. mm

    mm Flightless Bird

    On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 13:52:43 -0700, "Bruce Hagen" <BRH@nospam.invalid>
    wrote:

    ><snip>
    >
    >"mm" <NOPSAMmm2005@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
    >news:jcpc26hcngksfn6dendb10rdcsepfmd6d9@4ax.com...
    >>>You will get plenty of opinions, all may be well founded. Personally, I
    >>>would go with MSE. Anti-Virus, Anti-Spam and Anti-Malware rolled into
    >>>one.
    >>>
    >>>Microsoft Security Essentials
    >>>http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/default.aspx

    >>
    >> Isn't this the one that keeps telling my friend his security is out of
    >> date, whenever he logs on the first time each day.
    >>
    >> AVG etc. at least try to update the definitions before they complain
    >> that they are out of date.

    >
    >
    >I don't know. Who's your friend?


    Richard Emerson Howell III.

    >I have no problem with MSE. It updates in
    >the background without doing anything. (At least for me).


    I'll ask him if it st stopped doing that.
     
  13. Jeff Barnett

    Jeff Barnett Flightless Bird

    Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
    > On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 09:36:27 -0500, doncee
    > <nopsamdbc9814@nospamswbell.wanted> wrote:
    >
    >
    >> Need to rid myself of NAV on my XP machine. Installed latest version in
    >> April & have had numerous boot up & other errors ever since. Am thinking
    >> of Avast or AVG as a replacement along w\ Spybot. Any pro's or con's on
    >> these or on some others that should look in to. Thanks in advance
    >>

    >
    >
    > Getting rid of NAV is an excellent thing to do.
    >
    > Avast is a good choice, and a much better one than AVG. Here's my
    > standard post on the subject:
    >
    > For an anti-virus program, I recommend eSet NOD32, if you are willing
    > to pay for it. If you want a free anti-virus, I recommend one of the
    > following three:
    >
    > Avira
    > Avast
    > Microsoft Security Essentials
    >
    > You also need anti-spyware software. I recommend that you download and
    > install (both freeware) MalwareBytes AntiMalware *and*
    > SuperAntiSpyware.
    >

    Ken,

    I too recommended eSet for years. However, there is an important problem
    with all versions beyond 2.7. Put simply, there is no good way to
    schedule scans at off hours if your computer suspends itself when idle.
    For example, my computer initiates a full scan at 4:00AM every morning.
    The scan is described by a BAT file and the MS scheduler quits the
    suspend and runs that BAT. When the scan is finished the log is kept
    with the logs of scans initiated by the eSet scheduler or started
    manually. The 2.7 scheduler will not break a suspend and later versions
    provide no advertised BAT interface. All versions offers to run a missed
    scheduled scan as soon as possible. That means the next time I use my
    computer (and wake it up) I will have a background scan running. That is
    not acceptable to me since I often use CPU- and memory-intensive
    applications - that is why I schedule scans for off hours.

    I've contacted NOD32 directly and inquired in the user forums about the
    problem. For some reason the problem has not and will not be fixed. No
    reasons or guesses why have been offered. Since 2.7 is no longer
    current, I have decided to switch our computers next time I need to do
    yearly renewal of virus definitions. I like the product but they have
    elected to not be compatible with modern architectures that features
    energy management. The only ways I can use later versions are to 1)
    schedule scans while I'm on the computer or 2) not use suspend when
    idle. The former reduces productivity and the latter costs a few hundred
    dollars a year.

    This is not meant as an attack on you main recommendation, I too like
    eSet. It's just that my usage model and that product are not compatible
    and I think many other people have the same problem; many of them don't
    know it.
    --
    Jeff Barnett
     
  14. Anthony Buckland

    Anthony Buckland Flightless Bird

    "mm" <NOPSAMmm2005@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
    news:qgfd269vqpr12iijaiu6eejoghcd28rac2@4ax.com...
    > On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 13:52:43 -0700, "Bruce Hagen" <BRH@nospam.invalid>
    > wrote:
    >
    >><snip>
    >>I have no problem with MSE. It updates in
    >>the background without doing anything. (At least for me).

    > ...


    ZoneAlarm does that too. I selected hourly, which
    means that my virus/spyware database is never out
    of date to a greater degree than that. Software
    updates (within a version number) are automatic too.

    I'd be annoyed with any AV software that didn't do
    so in some manner without my intervention.
     
  15. Leythos

    Leythos Flightless Bird

    In article <Xns9DA361B9E4A39nospamdbc9814nospam@216.196.97.131>,
    nopsamdbc9814@nospamswbell.wanted says...
    >
    > Need to rid myself of NAV on my XP machine. Installed latest version in
    > April & have had numerous boot up & other errors ever since. Am thinking
    > of Avast or AVG as a replacement along w\ Spybot. Any pro's or con's on
    > these or on some others that should look in to. Thanks in advance
    > dc


    After decades of experience with most every product out, I have switched
    to Avira for workstations/personal computers, but I use Symantec End
    Point Protection on servers (their corporate level products).

    On personal computers, those that I've had to work on because they were
    compromised by malware, after wiping them, rebuilding them, installing
    Avira, I've not been called back to work on them (and yes, I maintain
    contact with the owners of those computers).

    --
    You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little
    voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
    Trust yourself.
    spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
     

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