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Antivirus recomendations??

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doncee

Flightless Bird
Need to rid myself of NAV on my XP machine. Installed latest version in
April & have had numerous boot up & other errors ever since. Am thinking
of Avast or AVG as a replacement along w\ Spybot. Any pro's or con's on
these or on some others that should look in to. Thanks in advance
dc
 
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Unknown

Flightless Bird
Why not just use MSE?
"doncee" <nopsamdbc9814@nospamswbell.wanted> wrote in message
news:Xns9DA361B9E4A39nospamdbc9814nospam@216.196.97.131...
> Need to rid myself of NAV on my XP machine. Installed latest version in
> April & have had numerous boot up & other errors ever since. Am thinking
> of Avast or AVG as a replacement along w\ Spybot. Any pro's or con's on
> these or on some others that should look in to. Thanks in advance
> dc
 
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Bruce Hagen

Flightless Bird
"doncee" <nopsamdbc9814@nospamswbell.wanted> wrote in message
news:Xns9DA361B9E4A39nospamdbc9814nospam@216.196.97.131...
> Need to rid myself of NAV on my XP machine. Installed latest version in
> April & have had numerous boot up & other errors ever since. Am thinking
> of Avast or AVG as a replacement along w\ Spybot. Any pro's or con's on
> these or on some others that should look in to. Thanks in advance
> dc




You will get plenty of opinions, all may be well founded. Personally, I
would go with MSE. Anti-Virus, Anti-Spam and Anti-Malware rolled into one.

Microsoft Security Essentials
http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/default.aspx

My second choice would be Avast + Windows Defender.

Avast:
http://www.avast.com/eng/download-avast-home.html

Choose Custom Installation and opt out of e-mail scanning.

Windows Defender:
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx

Whatever you choose, this is a must.

Norton Removal Tool
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2005033108162039

Get all that crap off your machine for good.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA
 
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Ken Blake, MVP

Flightless Bird
On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 09:36:27 -0500, doncee
<nopsamdbc9814@nospamswbell.wanted> wrote:

> Need to rid myself of NAV on my XP machine. Installed latest version in
> April & have had numerous boot up & other errors ever since. Am thinking
> of Avast or AVG as a replacement along w\ Spybot. Any pro's or con's on
> these or on some others that should look in to. Thanks in advance



Getting rid of NAV is an excellent thing to do.

Avast is a good choice, and a much better one than AVG. Here's my
standard post on the subject:

For an anti-virus program, I recommend eSet NOD32, if you are willing
to pay for it. If you want a free anti-virus, I recommend one of the
following three:

Avira
Avast
Microsoft Security Essentials

You also need anti-spyware software. I recommend that you download and
install (both freeware) MalwareBytes AntiMalware *and*
SuperAntiSpyware.


--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
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Anthony Buckland

Flightless Bird
"doncee" <nopsamdbc9814@nospamswbell.wanted> wrote in message
news:Xns9DA361B9E4A39nospamdbc9814nospam@216.196.97.131...
> Need to rid myself of NAV on my XP machine. Installed latest version in
> April & have had numerous boot up & other errors ever since. Am thinking
> of Avast or AVG as a replacement along w\ Spybot. Any pro's or con's on
> these or on some others that should look in to. Thanks in advance
> dc


I use ZoneAlarm Extreme Security. Partly, I suppose,
because that package's predecessor was the
first good product I came across after escaping from
Norton and McAfee.
 
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doncee

Flightless Bird
doncee <nopsamdbc9814@nospamswbell.wanted> wrote in
news:Xns9DA361B9E4A39nospamdbc9814nospam@216.196.97.131:

> Need to rid myself of NAV on my XP machine. Installed latest version

in
> April & have had numerous boot up & other errors ever since. Am

thinking
> of Avast or AVG as a replacement along w\ Spybot. Any pro's or con's

on
> these or on some others that should look in to. Thanks in advance
> dc
>


Thanks to all of you for your tips and advice. Exacty what I was
looking for.
thnx again
dc
 
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bobster

Flightless Bird
I'm using Microsoft Security Essentials + Windows Firewall. Yeah, I know
the latter doesn't protect from outgoing stuff but with MSE there never is
any outgoing. I also use the free versions of Malwarebytes and
SUPERAntiSpyware once a week as an added safety measure. They rarely find
anything except an occasional tracking cookie.

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"doncee" <nopsamdbc9814@nospamswbell.wanted> wrote in message
news:Xns9DA361B9E4A39nospamdbc9814nospam@216.196.97.131...
Need to rid myself of NAV on my XP machine. Installed latest version in
April & have had numerous boot up & other errors ever since. Am thinking
of Avast or AVG as a replacement along w\ Spybot. Any pro's or con's on
these or on some others that should look in to. Thanks in advance
dc
 
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Ken Blake, MVP

Flightless Bird
On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 11:52:41 -0700, "bobster" <fauxie@bogus.net>
wrote:

> I'm using Microsoft Security Essentials + Windows Firewall. Yeah, I know
> the latter doesn't protect from outgoing stuff



Although I used to recommend third-party firewalls because of their
outward protection, I've more recently become convinced that outward
protection is an illusion. Once one of the nasties gets into your
computer, it can essentially do whatever it wants, including
circumventing the firewall. So the extra protection that a firewall
that monitors outbound traffic provides is more apparent than real.



> but with MSE there never is
> any outgoing. I also use the free versions of Malwarebytes and
> SUPERAntiSpyware once a week as an added safety measure. They rarely find
> anything except an occasional tracking cookie.



Two excellent choices.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
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mm

Flightless Bird
On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 07:57:35 -0700, "Bruce Hagen" <BRH@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

>
>"doncee" <nopsamdbc9814@nospamswbell.wanted> wrote in message
>news:Xns9DA361B9E4A39nospamdbc9814nospam@216.196.97.131...
>> Need to rid myself of NAV on my XP machine. Installed latest version in
>> April & have had numerous boot up & other errors ever since. Am thinking
>> of Avast or AVG as a replacement along w\ Spybot. Any pro's or con's on
>> these or on some others that should look in to. Thanks in advance
>> dc

>
>
>
>You will get plenty of opinions, all may be well founded. Personally, I
>would go with MSE. Anti-Virus, Anti-Spam and Anti-Malware rolled into one.
>
>Microsoft Security Essentials
>http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/default.aspx


Isn't this the one that keeps telling my friend his security is out of
date, whenever he logs on the first time each day.

AVG etc. at least try to update the definitions before they complain
that they are out of date.

Others snipped.
 
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Bruce Hagen

Flightless Bird
<snip>

"mm" <NOPSAMmm2005@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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>>You will get plenty of opinions, all may be well founded. Personally, I
>>would go with MSE. Anti-Virus, Anti-Spam and Anti-Malware rolled into
>>one.
>>
>>Microsoft Security Essentials
>>http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/default.aspx

>
> Isn't this the one that keeps telling my friend his security is out of
> date, whenever he logs on the first time each day.
>
> AVG etc. at least try to update the definitions before they complain
> that they are out of date.



I don't know. Who's your friend? I have no problem with MSE. It updates in
the background without doing anything. (At least for me).
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA
 
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Hot-Text

Flightless Bird
Go with Yahoo ToolBar

https://yahoo.cainternetsecurity.net/



"doncee" <nopsamdbc9814@nospamswbell.wanted> wrote in message
news:Xns9DA361B9E4A39nospamdbc9814nospam@216.196.97.131...
> Need to rid myself of NAV on my XP machine. Installed latest version in
> April & have had numerous boot up & other errors ever since. Am thinking
> of Avast or AVG as a replacement along w\ Spybot. Any pro's or con's on
> these or on some others that should look in to. Thanks in advance
> dc
 
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mm

Flightless Bird
On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 13:52:43 -0700, "Bruce Hagen" <BRH@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

><snip>
>
>"mm" <NOPSAMmm2005@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
>news:jcpc26hcngksfn6dendb10rdcsepfmd6d9@4ax.com...
>>>You will get plenty of opinions, all may be well founded. Personally, I
>>>would go with MSE. Anti-Virus, Anti-Spam and Anti-Malware rolled into
>>>one.
>>>
>>>Microsoft Security Essentials
>>>http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/default.aspx

>>
>> Isn't this the one that keeps telling my friend his security is out of
>> date, whenever he logs on the first time each day.
>>
>> AVG etc. at least try to update the definitions before they complain
>> that they are out of date.

>
>
>I don't know. Who's your friend?


Richard Emerson Howell III.

>I have no problem with MSE. It updates in
>the background without doing anything. (At least for me).


I'll ask him if it st stopped doing that.
 
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Jeff Barnett

Flightless Bird
Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 09:36:27 -0500, doncee
> <nopsamdbc9814@nospamswbell.wanted> wrote:
>
>
>> Need to rid myself of NAV on my XP machine. Installed latest version in
>> April & have had numerous boot up & other errors ever since. Am thinking
>> of Avast or AVG as a replacement along w\ Spybot. Any pro's or con's on
>> these or on some others that should look in to. Thanks in advance
>>

>
>
> Getting rid of NAV is an excellent thing to do.
>
> Avast is a good choice, and a much better one than AVG. Here's my
> standard post on the subject:
>
> For an anti-virus program, I recommend eSet NOD32, if you are willing
> to pay for it. If you want a free anti-virus, I recommend one of the
> following three:
>
> Avira
> Avast
> Microsoft Security Essentials
>
> You also need anti-spyware software. I recommend that you download and
> install (both freeware) MalwareBytes AntiMalware *and*
> SuperAntiSpyware.
>

Ken,

I too recommended eSet for years. However, there is an important problem
with all versions beyond 2.7. Put simply, there is no good way to
schedule scans at off hours if your computer suspends itself when idle.
For example, my computer initiates a full scan at 4:00AM every morning.
The scan is described by a BAT file and the MS scheduler quits the
suspend and runs that BAT. When the scan is finished the log is kept
with the logs of scans initiated by the eSet scheduler or started
manually. The 2.7 scheduler will not break a suspend and later versions
provide no advertised BAT interface. All versions offers to run a missed
scheduled scan as soon as possible. That means the next time I use my
computer (and wake it up) I will have a background scan running. That is
not acceptable to me since I often use CPU- and memory-intensive
applications - that is why I schedule scans for off hours.

I've contacted NOD32 directly and inquired in the user forums about the
problem. For some reason the problem has not and will not be fixed. No
reasons or guesses why have been offered. Since 2.7 is no longer
current, I have decided to switch our computers next time I need to do
yearly renewal of virus definitions. I like the product but they have
elected to not be compatible with modern architectures that features
energy management. The only ways I can use later versions are to 1)
schedule scans while I'm on the computer or 2) not use suspend when
idle. The former reduces productivity and the latter costs a few hundred
dollars a year.

This is not meant as an attack on you main recommendation, I too like
eSet. It's just that my usage model and that product are not compatible
and I think many other people have the same problem; many of them don't
know it.
--
Jeff Barnett
 
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Anthony Buckland

Flightless Bird
"mm" <NOPSAMmm2005@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
news:qgfd269vqpr12iijaiu6eejoghcd28rac2@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 13:52:43 -0700, "Bruce Hagen" <BRH@nospam.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>><snip>
>>I have no problem with MSE. It updates in
>>the background without doing anything. (At least for me).

> ...


ZoneAlarm does that too. I selected hourly, which
means that my virus/spyware database is never out
of date to a greater degree than that. Software
updates (within a version number) are automatic too.

I'd be annoyed with any AV software that didn't do
so in some manner without my intervention.
 
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Leythos

Flightless Bird
In article <Xns9DA361B9E4A39nospamdbc9814nospam@216.196.97.131>,
nopsamdbc9814@nospamswbell.wanted says...
>
> Need to rid myself of NAV on my XP machine. Installed latest version in
> April & have had numerous boot up & other errors ever since. Am thinking
> of Avast or AVG as a replacement along w\ Spybot. Any pro's or con's on
> these or on some others that should look in to. Thanks in advance
> dc


After decades of experience with most every product out, I have switched
to Avira for workstations/personal computers, but I use Symantec End
Point Protection on servers (their corporate level products).

On personal computers, those that I've had to work on because they were
compromised by malware, after wiping them, rebuilding them, installing
Avira, I've not been called back to work on them (and yes, I maintain
contact with the owners of those computers).

--
You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little
voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
Trust yourself.
spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
 
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