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ADDITIONAL INFO RE: Data execution prevention - none of these work!

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by Tony, May 1, 2010.

  1. Tony

    Tony Flightless Bird

    Since my last post, I have some additional info that might help someone
    get an insight as to what the problem may actually be.

    First, I went to start/run and put in "sfc /scannow", and let it run
    fully. Everything copacetic there. The I checked Admin. tools for the
    read-out. Under the "Error" heading was this info:

    Faulting Application rundll32.exe version 5.1.2600.5512, faulting module
    unknown, version 0.0.0.0. fault address0x00000000

    Clicking on the "Online Help" link brought up a blank page - no help.

    Hoping some terrifically insightful MVP or other has a light go on!

    Tony
     
  2. LD5SZRA

    LD5SZRA Flightless Bird

    Why did you start a new query if the old one hasn't been solved
    yet? Do you expect us to search for your messages among hundreds
    we receive everyday? What exactly is the problem with your
    system?

    hth


    Tony wrote:
    >
    > Since my last post, I have some additional info that might help someone
    > get an insight as to what the problem may actually be.
    >
    > First, I went to start/run and put in "sfc /scannow", and let it run
    > fully. Everything copacetic there. The I checked Admin. tools for the
    > read-out. Under the "Error" heading was this info:
    >
    > Faulting Application rundll32.exe version 5.1.2600.5512, faulting module
    > unknown, version 0.0.0.0. fault address0x00000000
    >
    > Clicking on the "Online Help" link brought up a blank page - no help.
    >
    > Hoping some terrifically insightful MVP or other has a light go on!
    >
    > Tony


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  3. Tony

    Tony Flightless Bird

    Re: ADDITIONAL INFO RE: Data execution prevention - none of thesework!

    Sorry - here's the story to now:

    Tony wrote:
    I have been trying to simply change my desktop theme/desktop color.
    Every attempt to execute the change gives me the DEP message about "run
    .dll as an app". So I went into System Properties/Advanced/Performance
    and checked the box for an exception on "run .dll as an app". Reboot.
    Still won't allow me to do it. So I switched to "turn off DEP", which I
    know isn't wise, but I rebooted and it still will not let me change
    desktop theme, etc. A thorough online search turns up no info beyond
    what I've already tried. Can anyone help me solve this? Many thanks!

    Tony


    > Look at the error message again.. is it more along this line?
    >
    > "rundll.exe" or "rungll32.exe cannot be run as an application"
    >

    No, the message is: "To help protect your computer, Windows has closed
    this application". The application is listed as "Run .dll as an app".

    > Kelly has a few registry fixes at her site.. I would be surprised if
    > they work because of the DEP message, but they're easy-enough to try:
    >
    > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
    > Line 295. Lift Active Desktop Restrictions
    > Line 227. Restore/Enable Screensaver Tab Settings/Display
    > Line 282. Enable the Appearance Tab - Display
    >
    > Look also at her Active Desktop tweaks, if you use that feature.



    Thank you for trying, Joe, but as you expected, they didn't help.
    Frustrating!

    Tony
     
  4. LD5SZRA

    LD5SZRA Flightless Bird

    Re: ADDITIONAL INFO RE: Data execution prevention - none of thesework!

    To change the desktop color/theme, the easiest way is to
    Right-Click on the desktop and then select Properties. The first
    tab is for "Themes" and it doesn't give me any errors nor does it
    crash my system. I suggest you try changing the background of the
    desktop by going to the second tab that says "Desktop". Once you
    have changed the wallpaper, the color would be academic because
    you can select "Stretch" to make sure wallpaper covers the entire
    desktop.

    If you are getting errors doing these simple tasks then clearly
    your system is unstable and so re-formatting and re-installing the
    OS is a must because you don't know what else is wrong with the
    system.

    hth




    Tony wrote:
    >
    > Sorry - here's the story to now:
    >
    > Tony wrote:
    > I have been trying to simply change my desktop theme/desktop color.
    > Every attempt to execute the change gives me the DEP message about "run
    > .dll as an app". So I went into System Properties/Advanced/Performance
    > and checked the box for an exception on "run .dll as an app". Reboot.
    > Still won't allow me to do it. So I switched to "turn off DEP", which I
    > know isn't wise, but I rebooted and it still will not let me change
    > desktop theme, etc. A thorough online search turns up no info beyond
    > what I've already tried. Can anyone help me solve this? Many thanks!
    >
    > Tony
    >
    > > Look at the error message again.. is it more along this line?
    > >
    > > "rundll.exe" or "rungll32.exe cannot be run as an application"
    > >

    > No, the message is: "To help protect your computer, Windows has closed
    > this application". The application is listed as "Run .dll as an app".
    >
    > > Kelly has a few registry fixes at her site.. I would be surprised if
    > > they work because of the DEP message, but they're easy-enough to try:
    > >
    > > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
    > > Line 295. Lift Active Desktop Restrictions
    > > Line 227. Restore/Enable Screensaver Tab Settings/Display
    > > Line 282. Enable the Appearance Tab - Display
    > >
    > > Look also at her Active Desktop tweaks, if you use that feature.

    >
    > Thank you for trying, Joe, but as you expected, they didn't help.
    > Frustrating!
    >
    > Tony


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  5. Paul

    Paul Flightless Bird

    Re: ADDITIONAL INFO RE: Data execution prevention - none of thesework!

    Tony wrote:
    > Sorry - here's the story to now:
    >
    > Tony wrote:
    > I have been trying to simply change my desktop theme/desktop color.
    > Every attempt to execute the change gives me the DEP message about "run
    > .dll as an app". So I went into System Properties/Advanced/Performance
    > and checked the box for an exception on "run .dll as an app". Reboot.
    > Still won't allow me to do it. So I switched to "turn off DEP", which I
    > know isn't wise, but I rebooted and it still will not let me change
    > desktop theme, etc. A thorough online search turns up no info beyond
    > what I've already tried. Can anyone help me solve this? Many thanks!
    >
    > Tony
    >
    >
    > > Look at the error message again.. is it more along this line?
    > >
    > > "rundll.exe" or "rungll32.exe cannot be run as an application"
    > >

    > No, the message is: "To help protect your computer, Windows has closed
    > this application". The application is listed as "Run .dll as an app".
    >
    > > Kelly has a few registry fixes at her site.. I would be surprised if
    > > they work because of the DEP message, but they're easy-enough to try:
    > >
    > > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
    > > Line 295. Lift Active Desktop Restrictions
    > > Line 227. Restore/Enable Screensaver Tab Settings/Display
    > > Line 282. Enable the Appearance Tab - Display
    > >
    > > Look also at her Active Desktop tweaks, if you use that feature.

    >
    >
    > Thank you for trying, Joe, but as you expected, they didn't help.
    > Frustrating!
    >
    > Tony


    First, start by reading the article on DEP. Then, think about third-party
    packages you've been adding to the computer. Or, alternately, think about
    malware as being the source of the problem. Fiddling with the DEP settings
    themselves, doesn't seem to be much of an option, based on people trying
    that in the past for weird problems, and getting nowhere as a result.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_execution_prevention

    An example of a third-party app, might be something like "uxtheme".
    Try a search on "uxtheme" and "dep".

    There are downloadable CDs you can get, to scan for malware
    while Windows if offline. Perhaps one of those would help, with
    respect to looking for a malware source for the problem.

    http://devbuilds.kaspersky-labs.com/devbuilds/RescueDisk/

    With that one, you use a burner program that understands ISO9660
    files. Nero is what I use, but perhaps imgburn or cdburnerxp might
    work.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Optical_disc_authoring_software

    Once you've made the CD, set up the computer to boot from
    CD. The KAV disc, once booted, uses DHCP to establish a connection
    to the network, which might work if you have a cable modem or ADSL
    modem/router set up. At least, I have mine DHCP enabled on my broadband
    connection, and then this CD can get an IP address and get connected
    to the Internet. Once the environment has a network connection, it will
    download updates to the AV database, and prepare for scanning. In the
    partitions menu, it lists drive letters, but the drive letters are not
    extracted from the partitions themselves. As a result, you have to figure
    out which of their "letters", corresponds to your C: drive. For example,
    sometimes, I have to select "F:" to be scanned, to actually get my
    WinXP C: to be scanned. If in doubt, just click them all. Scanning
    can be slow, and with this one, tends to slow down with time.

    Paul
     
  6. Tony

    Tony Flightless Bird

    Re: ADDITIONAL INFO RE: Data execution prevention - none of thesework!

    Paul wrote:
    > Tony wrote:
    >> Sorry - here's the story to now:
    >>
    >> Tony wrote:
    >> I have been trying to simply change my desktop theme/desktop color.
    >> Every attempt to execute the change gives me the DEP message about "run
    >> .dll as an app". So I went into System Properties/Advanced/Performance
    >> and checked the box for an exception on "run .dll as an app". Reboot.
    >> Still won't allow me to do it. So I switched to "turn off DEP", which I
    >> know isn't wise, but I rebooted and it still will not let me change
    >> desktop theme, etc. A thorough online search turns up no info beyond
    >> what I've already tried. Can anyone help me solve this? Many thanks!
    >>
    >> Tony
    >>
    >>
    >> > Look at the error message again.. is it more along this line?
    >> >
    >> > "rundll.exe" or "rungll32.exe cannot be run as an application"
    >> >

    >> No, the message is: "To help protect your computer, Windows has closed
    >> this application". The application is listed as "Run .dll as an app".
    >>
    >> > Kelly has a few registry fixes at her site.. I would be surprised if
    >> > they work because of the DEP message, but they're easy-enough to try:
    >> >
    >> > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
    >> > Line 295. Lift Active Desktop Restrictions
    >> > Line 227. Restore/Enable Screensaver Tab Settings/Display
    >> > Line 282. Enable the Appearance Tab - Display
    >> >
    >> > Look also at her Active Desktop tweaks, if you use that feature.

    >>
    >>
    >> Thank you for trying, Joe, but as you expected, they didn't help.
    >> Frustrating!
    >>
    >> Tony

    >
    > First, start by reading the article on DEP. Then, think about third-party
    > packages you've been adding to the computer. Or, alternately, think about
    > malware as being the source of the problem. Fiddling with the DEP settings
    > themselves, doesn't seem to be much of an option, based on people trying
    > that in the past for weird problems, and getting nowhere as a result.
    >
    > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_execution_prevention
    >
    > An example of a third-party app, might be something like "uxtheme".
    > Try a search on "uxtheme" and "dep".
    >
    > There are downloadable CDs you can get, to scan for malware
    > while Windows if offline. Perhaps one of those would help, with
    > respect to looking for a malware source for the problem.
    >
    > http://devbuilds.kaspersky-labs.com/devbuilds/RescueDisk/
    >
    > With that one, you use a burner program that understands ISO9660
    > files. Nero is what I use, but perhaps imgburn or cdburnerxp might
    > work.
    >
    > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Optical_disc_authoring_software
    >
    > Once you've made the CD, set up the computer to boot from
    > CD. The KAV disc, once booted, uses DHCP to establish a connection
    > to the network, which might work if you have a cable modem or ADSL
    > modem/router set up. At least, I have mine DHCP enabled on my broadband
    > connection, and then this CD can get an IP address and get connected
    > to the Internet. Once the environment has a network connection, it will
    > download updates to the AV database, and prepare for scanning. In the
    > partitions menu, it lists drive letters, but the drive letters are not
    > extracted from the partitions themselves. As a result, you have to figure
    > out which of their "letters", corresponds to your C: drive. For example,
    > sometimes, I have to select "F:" to be scanned, to actually get my
    > WinXP C: to be scanned. If in doubt, just click them all. Scanning
    > can be slow, and with this one, tends to slow down with time.
    >
    > Paul


    Thank you for taking the time with this, Paul. With additional work
    last night, I did determine that the problem seems to be connected to
    "uxtheme.dll" in some way. There are three different versions of that
    file on my computer in three different places. By version number, which
    one should I keep, and which directory is the right one (I presume
    system32, but I'm not sure). Or should I chuck them all?

    Again, my thanks for making the effort on this!

    Tony
     
  7. Paul

    Paul Flightless Bird

    Re: ADDITIONAL INFO RE: Data execution prevention - none of thesework!

    Tony wrote:
    > Paul wrote:
    >> Tony wrote:
    >>> Sorry - here's the story to now:
    >>>
    >>> Tony wrote:
    >>> I have been trying to simply change my desktop theme/desktop color.
    >>> Every attempt to execute the change gives me the DEP message about "run
    >>> .dll as an app". So I went into System Properties/Advanced/Performance
    >>> and checked the box for an exception on "run .dll as an app". Reboot.
    >>> Still won't allow me to do it. So I switched to "turn off DEP", which I
    >>> know isn't wise, but I rebooted and it still will not let me change
    >>> desktop theme, etc. A thorough online search turns up no info beyond
    >>> what I've already tried. Can anyone help me solve this? Many thanks!
    >>>
    >>> Tony
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> > Look at the error message again.. is it more along this line?
    >>> >
    >>> > "rundll.exe" or "rungll32.exe cannot be run as an application"
    >>> >
    >>> No, the message is: "To help protect your computer, Windows has closed
    >>> this application". The application is listed as "Run .dll as an app".
    >>>
    >>> > Kelly has a few registry fixes at her site.. I would be surprised if
    >>> > they work because of the DEP message, but they're easy-enough to try:
    >>> >
    >>> > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
    >>> > Line 295. Lift Active Desktop Restrictions
    >>> > Line 227. Restore/Enable Screensaver Tab Settings/Display
    >>> > Line 282. Enable the Appearance Tab - Display
    >>> >
    >>> > Look also at her Active Desktop tweaks, if you use that feature.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Thank you for trying, Joe, but as you expected, they didn't help.
    >>> Frustrating!
    >>>
    >>> Tony

    >>
    >> First, start by reading the article on DEP. Then, think about third-party
    >> packages you've been adding to the computer. Or, alternately, think about
    >> malware as being the source of the problem. Fiddling with the DEP
    >> settings
    >> themselves, doesn't seem to be much of an option, based on people trying
    >> that in the past for weird problems, and getting nowhere as a result.
    >>
    >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_execution_prevention
    >>
    >> An example of a third-party app, might be something like "uxtheme".
    >> Try a search on "uxtheme" and "dep".
    >>
    >> There are downloadable CDs you can get, to scan for malware
    >> while Windows if offline. Perhaps one of those would help, with
    >> respect to looking for a malware source for the problem.
    >>
    >> http://devbuilds.kaspersky-labs.com/devbuilds/RescueDisk/
    >>
    >> With that one, you use a burner program that understands ISO9660
    >> files. Nero is what I use, but perhaps imgburn or cdburnerxp might
    >> work.
    >>
    >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Optical_disc_authoring_software
    >>
    >> Once you've made the CD, set up the computer to boot from
    >> CD. The KAV disc, once booted, uses DHCP to establish a connection
    >> to the network, which might work if you have a cable modem or ADSL
    >> modem/router set up. At least, I have mine DHCP enabled on my broadband
    >> connection, and then this CD can get an IP address and get connected
    >> to the Internet. Once the environment has a network connection, it will
    >> download updates to the AV database, and prepare for scanning. In the
    >> partitions menu, it lists drive letters, but the drive letters are not
    >> extracted from the partitions themselves. As a result, you have to figure
    >> out which of their "letters", corresponds to your C: drive. For example,
    >> sometimes, I have to select "F:" to be scanned, to actually get my
    >> WinXP C: to be scanned. If in doubt, just click them all. Scanning
    >> can be slow, and with this one, tends to slow down with time.
    >>
    >> Paul

    >
    > Thank you for taking the time with this, Paul. With additional work
    > last night, I did determine that the problem seems to be connected to
    > "uxtheme.dll" in some way. There are three different versions of that
    > file on my computer in three different places. By version number, which
    > one should I keep, and which directory is the right one (I presume
    > system32, but I'm not sure). Or should I chuck them all?
    >
    > Again, my thanks for making the effort on this!
    >
    > Tony


    I don't know how to fix it, but I have my suspicions. The only reason
    it came to mind, is your mention of "theme".

    It appears I have the same version of uxtheme.dll in

    C:/WINDOWS\system32
    C:/WINDOWS\system32\dllcache

    It is 6.00.2900.5512 and appears to have come with SP3. 218,624 bytes.

    Perhaps if you'd used some third-party theme software, it installed
    or hacked your theme file ?

    Paul
     
  8. Tony

    Tony Flightless Bird

    Re: ADDITIONAL INFO RE: Data execution prevention - none of thesework!

    Paul wrote:
    > Tony wrote:
    >> Paul wrote:
    >>> Tony wrote:
    >>>> Sorry - here's the story to now:
    >>>>
    >>>> Tony wrote:
    >>>> I have been trying to simply change my desktop theme/desktop color.
    >>>> Every attempt to execute the change gives me the DEP message about
    >>>> "run
    >>>> .dll as an app". So I went into System Properties/Advanced/Performance
    >>>> and checked the box for an exception on "run .dll as an app". Reboot.
    >>>> Still won't allow me to do it. So I switched to "turn off DEP",
    >>>> which I
    >>>> know isn't wise, but I rebooted and it still will not let me change
    >>>> desktop theme, etc. A thorough online search turns up no info
    >>>> beyond what I've already tried. Can anyone help me solve this?
    >>>> Many thanks!
    >>>>
    >>>> Tony
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> > Look at the error message again.. is it more along this line?
    >>>> >
    >>>> > "rundll.exe" or "rungll32.exe cannot be run as an application"
    >>>> >
    >>>> No, the message is: "To help protect your computer, Windows has
    >>>> closed
    >>>> this application". The application is listed as "Run .dll as an app".
    >>>>
    >>>> > Kelly has a few registry fixes at her site.. I would be surprised if
    >>>> > they work because of the DEP message, but they're easy-enough to
    >>>> try:
    >>>> >
    >>>> > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
    >>>> > Line 295. Lift Active Desktop Restrictions
    >>>> > Line 227. Restore/Enable Screensaver Tab Settings/Display
    >>>> > Line 282. Enable the Appearance Tab - Display
    >>>> >
    >>>> > Look also at her Active Desktop tweaks, if you use that feature.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Thank you for trying, Joe, but as you expected, they didn't help.
    >>>> Frustrating!
    >>>>
    >>>> Tony
    >>>
    >>> First, start by reading the article on DEP. Then, think about
    >>> third-party
    >>> packages you've been adding to the computer. Or, alternately, think
    >>> about
    >>> malware as being the source of the problem. Fiddling with the DEP
    >>> settings
    >>> themselves, doesn't seem to be much of an option, based on people trying
    >>> that in the past for weird problems, and getting nowhere as a result.
    >>>
    >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_execution_prevention
    >>>
    >>> An example of a third-party app, might be something like "uxtheme".
    >>> Try a search on "uxtheme" and "dep".
    >>>
    >>> There are downloadable CDs you can get, to scan for malware
    >>> while Windows if offline. Perhaps one of those would help, with
    >>> respect to looking for a malware source for the problem.
    >>>
    >>> http://devbuilds.kaspersky-labs.com/devbuilds/RescueDisk/
    >>>
    >>> With that one, you use a burner program that understands ISO9660
    >>> files. Nero is what I use, but perhaps imgburn or cdburnerxp might
    >>> work.
    >>>
    >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Optical_disc_authoring_software
    >>>
    >>> Once you've made the CD, set up the computer to boot from
    >>> CD. The KAV disc, once booted, uses DHCP to establish a connection
    >>> to the network, which might work if you have a cable modem or ADSL
    >>> modem/router set up. At least, I have mine DHCP enabled on my broadband
    >>> connection, and then this CD can get an IP address and get connected
    >>> to the Internet. Once the environment has a network connection, it will
    >>> download updates to the AV database, and prepare for scanning. In the
    >>> partitions menu, it lists drive letters, but the drive letters are not
    >>> extracted from the partitions themselves. As a result, you have to
    >>> figure
    >>> out which of their "letters", corresponds to your C: drive. For example,
    >>> sometimes, I have to select "F:" to be scanned, to actually get my
    >>> WinXP C: to be scanned. If in doubt, just click them all. Scanning
    >>> can be slow, and with this one, tends to slow down with time.
    >>>
    >>> Paul

    >>
    >> Thank you for taking the time with this, Paul. With additional work
    >> last night, I did determine that the problem seems to be connected to
    >> "uxtheme.dll" in some way. There are three different versions of that
    >> file on my computer in three different places. By version number,
    >> which one should I keep, and which directory is the right one (I
    >> presume system32, but I'm not sure). Or should I chuck them all?
    >>
    >> Again, my thanks for making the effort on this!
    >>
    >> Tony

    >
    > I don't know how to fix it, but I have my suspicions. The only reason
    > it came to mind, is your mention of "theme".
    >
    > It appears I have the same version of uxtheme.dll in
    >
    > C:/WINDOWS\system32
    > C:/WINDOWS\system32\dllcache
    >
    > It is 6.00.2900.5512 and appears to have come with SP3. 218,624 bytes.
    >
    > Perhaps if you'd used some third-party theme software, it installed
    > or hacked your theme file ?
    >
    > Paul



    I thought of that, but the interesting thing is that I have never
    downloaded or used *ANY* theme except what's available with the original
    (and updated) WindowsXP. Specifically what I'd been trying to is this:

    I prefer a blank desktop - no wallpaper - a very, very light shade.
    Usually very light tan, occasionally very light blue. I used to switch
    back and forth between those two about once a month easily (they were
    both self-created "custom colors" within system properties) but suddenly
    I'd get that DEP slam on the brakes when I'd go to do it, telling me
    that the offending program was "Run .dll as an app", which is not a
    program at all, of course.

    Anyhow, a few minutes ago - after an extensive online search that told
    me mostly that a LOT of people have had this same problem, I found and
    downloaded a recommended fix called "Uxtheme Multipatcher 6.0" That
    seems to have solved the problem - for now, anyway. Again THANK YOU for
    your time and effort!

    Tony
     
  9. Twayne

    Twayne Flightless Bird

    In news:hrj22g$132$1@speranza.aioe.org,
    Paul <nospam@needed.com> typed:
    > Tony wrote:
    >> Sorry - here's the story to now:
    >>
    >> Tony wrote:
    >> I have been trying to simply change my desktop
    >> theme/desktop color. Every attempt to execute the change
    >> gives me the DEP message about "run .dll as an app". So I
    >> went into System Properties/Advanced/Performance and
    >> checked the box for an exception on "run .dll as an app". Reboot. Still
    >> won't allow me to do it. So I switched to
    >> "turn off DEP", which I know isn't wise, but I rebooted
    >> and it still will not let me change desktop theme, etc. A
    >> thorough online search turns up no info beyond what I've
    >> already tried. Can anyone help me solve this? Many
    >> thanks! Tony
    >>
    >>
    >> > Look at the error message again.. is it more along this

    >> line? >
    >> > "rundll.exe" or "rungll32.exe cannot be run as an

    >> application" >
    >> No, the message is: "To help protect your computer,
    >> Windows has closed this application". The application is
    >> listed as "Run .dll as an app". > Kelly has a few registry fixes at her
    >> site.. I would be
    >> surprised if > they work because of the DEP message, but
    >> they're easy-enough to try: >
    >> > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
    >> > Line 295. Lift Active Desktop Restrictions
    >> > Line 227. Restore/Enable Screensaver Tab

    >> Settings/Display > Line 282. Enable the Appearance Tab -
    >> Display >
    >> > Look also at her Active Desktop tweaks, if you use that

    >> feature. Thank you for trying, Joe, but as you expected, they
    >> didn't help. Frustrating!
    >>
    >> Tony

    >
    > First, start by reading the article on DEP. Then, think
    > about third-party packages you've been adding to the
    > computer. Or, alternately, think about malware as being the
    > source of the problem. Fiddling with the DEP settings
    > themselves, doesn't seem to be much of an option, based on
    > people trying that in the past for weird problems, and
    > getting nowhere as a result.
    > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_execution_prevention
    >
    > An example of a third-party app, might be something like
    > "uxtheme". Try a search on "uxtheme" and "dep".
    >
    > There are downloadable CDs you can get, to scan for malware
    > while Windows if offline. Perhaps one of those would help,
    > with respect to looking for a malware source for the problem.
    >
    > http://devbuilds.kaspersky-labs.com/devbuilds/RescueDisk/
    >
    > With that one, you use a burner program that understands
    > ISO9660 files. Nero is what I use, but perhaps imgburn or
    > cdburnerxp might work.
    >
    > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Optical_disc_authoring_software
    >
    > Once you've made the CD, set up the computer to boot from
    > CD. The KAV disc, once booted, uses DHCP to establish a
    > connection to the network, which might work if you have a cable modem
    > or ADSL modem/router set up. At least, I have mine DHCP
    > enabled on my broadband connection, and then this CD can
    > get an IP address and get connected to the Internet. Once the environment
    > has a network
    > connection, it will download updates to the AV database,
    > and prepare for scanning. In the partitions menu, it lists
    > drive letters, but the drive letters are not extracted from
    > the partitions themselves. As a result, you have to figure
    > out which of their "letters", corresponds to your C: drive.
    > For example, sometimes, I have to select "F:" to be
    > scanned, to actually get my WinXP C: to be scanned. If in doubt, just
    > click them all.
    > Scanning can be slow, and with this one, tends to slow down with
    > time.
    > Paul


    If run .dll actually exists (with a space), it's phony! There should also be
    a run.dll there unless it was deleted.

    HTH,

    Twayne`
     

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