Since my last post, I have some additional info that might help someone get an insight as to what the problem may actually be. First, I went to start/run and put in "sfc /scannow", and let it run fully. Everything copacetic there. The I checked Admin. tools for the read-out. Under the "Error" heading was this info: Faulting Application rundll32.exe version 5.1.2600.5512, faulting module unknown, version 0.0.0.0. fault address0x00000000 Clicking on the "Online Help" link brought up a blank page - no help. Hoping some terrifically insightful MVP or other has a light go on! Tony
Why did you start a new query if the old one hasn't been solved yet? Do you expect us to search for your messages among hundreds we receive everyday? What exactly is the problem with your system? hth Tony wrote: > > Since my last post, I have some additional info that might help someone > get an insight as to what the problem may actually be. > > First, I went to start/run and put in "sfc /scannow", and let it run > fully. Everything copacetic there. The I checked Admin. tools for the > read-out. Under the "Error" heading was this info: > > Faulting Application rundll32.exe version 5.1.2600.5512, faulting module > unknown, version 0.0.0.0. fault address0x00000000 > > Clicking on the "Online Help" link brought up a blank page - no help. > > Hoping some terrifically insightful MVP or other has a light go on! > > Tony -- THE INFORMATION IS PROVIDED "AS IS" WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND. LD5SZRA DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES, EITHER EXPRESSED OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. IN NO EVENT SHALL LD5SZRA OR ITS ASSOCIATES BE LIABLE FOR ANY DAMAGES WHATSOEVER INCLUDING DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, CONSEQUENTIAL, LOSS OF BUSINESS PROFITS OR SPECIAL DAMAGES, EVEN IF LD5SZRA OR ITS ASSOCIATES HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES. SOME STATES DO NOT ALLOW THE EXCLUSION OR LIMITATION OF LIABILITY FOR CONSEQUENTIAL OR INCIDENTAL DAMAGES SO THE FOREGOING LIMITATION MAY NOT APPLY. Copyright LD5SZRA 2010.
Re: ADDITIONAL INFO RE: Data execution prevention - none of thesework! Sorry - here's the story to now: Tony wrote: I have been trying to simply change my desktop theme/desktop color. Every attempt to execute the change gives me the DEP message about "run .dll as an app". So I went into System Properties/Advanced/Performance and checked the box for an exception on "run .dll as an app". Reboot. Still won't allow me to do it. So I switched to "turn off DEP", which I know isn't wise, but I rebooted and it still will not let me change desktop theme, etc. A thorough online search turns up no info beyond what I've already tried. Can anyone help me solve this? Many thanks! Tony > Look at the error message again.. is it more along this line? > > "rundll.exe" or "rungll32.exe cannot be run as an application" > No, the message is: "To help protect your computer, Windows has closed this application". The application is listed as "Run .dll as an app". > Kelly has a few registry fixes at her site.. I would be surprised if > they work because of the DEP message, but they're easy-enough to try: > > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm > Line 295. Lift Active Desktop Restrictions > Line 227. Restore/Enable Screensaver Tab Settings/Display > Line 282. Enable the Appearance Tab - Display > > Look also at her Active Desktop tweaks, if you use that feature. Thank you for trying, Joe, but as you expected, they didn't help. Frustrating! Tony
Re: ADDITIONAL INFO RE: Data execution prevention - none of thesework! To change the desktop color/theme, the easiest way is to Right-Click on the desktop and then select Properties. The first tab is for "Themes" and it doesn't give me any errors nor does it crash my system. I suggest you try changing the background of the desktop by going to the second tab that says "Desktop". Once you have changed the wallpaper, the color would be academic because you can select "Stretch" to make sure wallpaper covers the entire desktop. If you are getting errors doing these simple tasks then clearly your system is unstable and so re-formatting and re-installing the OS is a must because you don't know what else is wrong with the system. hth Tony wrote: > > Sorry - here's the story to now: > > Tony wrote: > I have been trying to simply change my desktop theme/desktop color. > Every attempt to execute the change gives me the DEP message about "run > .dll as an app". So I went into System Properties/Advanced/Performance > and checked the box for an exception on "run .dll as an app". Reboot. > Still won't allow me to do it. So I switched to "turn off DEP", which I > know isn't wise, but I rebooted and it still will not let me change > desktop theme, etc. A thorough online search turns up no info beyond > what I've already tried. Can anyone help me solve this? Many thanks! > > Tony > > > Look at the error message again.. is it more along this line? > > > > "rundll.exe" or "rungll32.exe cannot be run as an application" > > > No, the message is: "To help protect your computer, Windows has closed > this application". The application is listed as "Run .dll as an app". > > > Kelly has a few registry fixes at her site.. I would be surprised if > > they work because of the DEP message, but they're easy-enough to try: > > > > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm > > Line 295. Lift Active Desktop Restrictions > > Line 227. Restore/Enable Screensaver Tab Settings/Display > > Line 282. Enable the Appearance Tab - Display > > > > Look also at her Active Desktop tweaks, if you use that feature. > > Thank you for trying, Joe, but as you expected, they didn't help. > Frustrating! > > Tony -- THE INFORMATION IS PROVIDED "AS IS" WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND. LD5SZRA DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES, EITHER EXPRESSED OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. IN NO EVENT SHALL LD5SZRA OR ITS ASSOCIATES BE LIABLE FOR ANY DAMAGES WHATSOEVER INCLUDING DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, CONSEQUENTIAL, LOSS OF BUSINESS PROFITS OR SPECIAL DAMAGES, EVEN IF LD5SZRA OR ITS ASSOCIATES HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES. SOME STATES DO NOT ALLOW THE EXCLUSION OR LIMITATION OF LIABILITY FOR CONSEQUENTIAL OR INCIDENTAL DAMAGES SO THE FOREGOING LIMITATION MAY NOT APPLY. Copyright LD5SZRA 2010.
Re: ADDITIONAL INFO RE: Data execution prevention - none of thesework! Tony wrote: > Sorry - here's the story to now: > > Tony wrote: > I have been trying to simply change my desktop theme/desktop color. > Every attempt to execute the change gives me the DEP message about "run > .dll as an app". So I went into System Properties/Advanced/Performance > and checked the box for an exception on "run .dll as an app". Reboot. > Still won't allow me to do it. So I switched to "turn off DEP", which I > know isn't wise, but I rebooted and it still will not let me change > desktop theme, etc. A thorough online search turns up no info beyond > what I've already tried. Can anyone help me solve this? Many thanks! > > Tony > > > > Look at the error message again.. is it more along this line? > > > > "rundll.exe" or "rungll32.exe cannot be run as an application" > > > No, the message is: "To help protect your computer, Windows has closed > this application". The application is listed as "Run .dll as an app". > > > Kelly has a few registry fixes at her site.. I would be surprised if > > they work because of the DEP message, but they're easy-enough to try: > > > > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm > > Line 295. Lift Active Desktop Restrictions > > Line 227. Restore/Enable Screensaver Tab Settings/Display > > Line 282. Enable the Appearance Tab - Display > > > > Look also at her Active Desktop tweaks, if you use that feature. > > > Thank you for trying, Joe, but as you expected, they didn't help. > Frustrating! > > Tony First, start by reading the article on DEP. Then, think about third-party packages you've been adding to the computer. Or, alternately, think about malware as being the source of the problem. Fiddling with the DEP settings themselves, doesn't seem to be much of an option, based on people trying that in the past for weird problems, and getting nowhere as a result. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_execution_prevention An example of a third-party app, might be something like "uxtheme". Try a search on "uxtheme" and "dep". There are downloadable CDs you can get, to scan for malware while Windows if offline. Perhaps one of those would help, with respect to looking for a malware source for the problem. http://devbuilds.kaspersky-labs.com/devbuilds/RescueDisk/ With that one, you use a burner program that understands ISO9660 files. Nero is what I use, but perhaps imgburn or cdburnerxp might work. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Optical_disc_authoring_software Once you've made the CD, set up the computer to boot from CD. The KAV disc, once booted, uses DHCP to establish a connection to the network, which might work if you have a cable modem or ADSL modem/router set up. At least, I have mine DHCP enabled on my broadband connection, and then this CD can get an IP address and get connected to the Internet. Once the environment has a network connection, it will download updates to the AV database, and prepare for scanning. In the partitions menu, it lists drive letters, but the drive letters are not extracted from the partitions themselves. As a result, you have to figure out which of their "letters", corresponds to your C: drive. For example, sometimes, I have to select "F:" to be scanned, to actually get my WinXP C: to be scanned. If in doubt, just click them all. Scanning can be slow, and with this one, tends to slow down with time. Paul
Re: ADDITIONAL INFO RE: Data execution prevention - none of thesework! Paul wrote: > Tony wrote: >> Sorry - here's the story to now: >> >> Tony wrote: >> I have been trying to simply change my desktop theme/desktop color. >> Every attempt to execute the change gives me the DEP message about "run >> .dll as an app". So I went into System Properties/Advanced/Performance >> and checked the box for an exception on "run .dll as an app". Reboot. >> Still won't allow me to do it. So I switched to "turn off DEP", which I >> know isn't wise, but I rebooted and it still will not let me change >> desktop theme, etc. A thorough online search turns up no info beyond >> what I've already tried. Can anyone help me solve this? Many thanks! >> >> Tony >> >> >> > Look at the error message again.. is it more along this line? >> > >> > "rundll.exe" or "rungll32.exe cannot be run as an application" >> > >> No, the message is: "To help protect your computer, Windows has closed >> this application". The application is listed as "Run .dll as an app". >> >> > Kelly has a few registry fixes at her site.. I would be surprised if >> > they work because of the DEP message, but they're easy-enough to try: >> > >> > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm >> > Line 295. Lift Active Desktop Restrictions >> > Line 227. Restore/Enable Screensaver Tab Settings/Display >> > Line 282. Enable the Appearance Tab - Display >> > >> > Look also at her Active Desktop tweaks, if you use that feature. >> >> >> Thank you for trying, Joe, but as you expected, they didn't help. >> Frustrating! >> >> Tony > > First, start by reading the article on DEP. Then, think about third-party > packages you've been adding to the computer. Or, alternately, think about > malware as being the source of the problem. Fiddling with the DEP settings > themselves, doesn't seem to be much of an option, based on people trying > that in the past for weird problems, and getting nowhere as a result. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_execution_prevention > > An example of a third-party app, might be something like "uxtheme". > Try a search on "uxtheme" and "dep". > > There are downloadable CDs you can get, to scan for malware > while Windows if offline. Perhaps one of those would help, with > respect to looking for a malware source for the problem. > > http://devbuilds.kaspersky-labs.com/devbuilds/RescueDisk/ > > With that one, you use a burner program that understands ISO9660 > files. Nero is what I use, but perhaps imgburn or cdburnerxp might > work. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Optical_disc_authoring_software > > Once you've made the CD, set up the computer to boot from > CD. The KAV disc, once booted, uses DHCP to establish a connection > to the network, which might work if you have a cable modem or ADSL > modem/router set up. At least, I have mine DHCP enabled on my broadband > connection, and then this CD can get an IP address and get connected > to the Internet. Once the environment has a network connection, it will > download updates to the AV database, and prepare for scanning. In the > partitions menu, it lists drive letters, but the drive letters are not > extracted from the partitions themselves. As a result, you have to figure > out which of their "letters", corresponds to your C: drive. For example, > sometimes, I have to select "F:" to be scanned, to actually get my > WinXP C: to be scanned. If in doubt, just click them all. Scanning > can be slow, and with this one, tends to slow down with time. > > Paul Thank you for taking the time with this, Paul. With additional work last night, I did determine that the problem seems to be connected to "uxtheme.dll" in some way. There are three different versions of that file on my computer in three different places. By version number, which one should I keep, and which directory is the right one (I presume system32, but I'm not sure). Or should I chuck them all? Again, my thanks for making the effort on this! Tony
Re: ADDITIONAL INFO RE: Data execution prevention - none of thesework! Tony wrote: > Paul wrote: >> Tony wrote: >>> Sorry - here's the story to now: >>> >>> Tony wrote: >>> I have been trying to simply change my desktop theme/desktop color. >>> Every attempt to execute the change gives me the DEP message about "run >>> .dll as an app". So I went into System Properties/Advanced/Performance >>> and checked the box for an exception on "run .dll as an app". Reboot. >>> Still won't allow me to do it. So I switched to "turn off DEP", which I >>> know isn't wise, but I rebooted and it still will not let me change >>> desktop theme, etc. A thorough online search turns up no info beyond >>> what I've already tried. Can anyone help me solve this? Many thanks! >>> >>> Tony >>> >>> >>> > Look at the error message again.. is it more along this line? >>> > >>> > "rundll.exe" or "rungll32.exe cannot be run as an application" >>> > >>> No, the message is: "To help protect your computer, Windows has closed >>> this application". The application is listed as "Run .dll as an app". >>> >>> > Kelly has a few registry fixes at her site.. I would be surprised if >>> > they work because of the DEP message, but they're easy-enough to try: >>> > >>> > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm >>> > Line 295. Lift Active Desktop Restrictions >>> > Line 227. Restore/Enable Screensaver Tab Settings/Display >>> > Line 282. Enable the Appearance Tab - Display >>> > >>> > Look also at her Active Desktop tweaks, if you use that feature. >>> >>> >>> Thank you for trying, Joe, but as you expected, they didn't help. >>> Frustrating! >>> >>> Tony >> >> First, start by reading the article on DEP. Then, think about third-party >> packages you've been adding to the computer. Or, alternately, think about >> malware as being the source of the problem. Fiddling with the DEP >> settings >> themselves, doesn't seem to be much of an option, based on people trying >> that in the past for weird problems, and getting nowhere as a result. >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_execution_prevention >> >> An example of a third-party app, might be something like "uxtheme". >> Try a search on "uxtheme" and "dep". >> >> There are downloadable CDs you can get, to scan for malware >> while Windows if offline. Perhaps one of those would help, with >> respect to looking for a malware source for the problem. >> >> http://devbuilds.kaspersky-labs.com/devbuilds/RescueDisk/ >> >> With that one, you use a burner program that understands ISO9660 >> files. Nero is what I use, but perhaps imgburn or cdburnerxp might >> work. >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Optical_disc_authoring_software >> >> Once you've made the CD, set up the computer to boot from >> CD. The KAV disc, once booted, uses DHCP to establish a connection >> to the network, which might work if you have a cable modem or ADSL >> modem/router set up. At least, I have mine DHCP enabled on my broadband >> connection, and then this CD can get an IP address and get connected >> to the Internet. Once the environment has a network connection, it will >> download updates to the AV database, and prepare for scanning. In the >> partitions menu, it lists drive letters, but the drive letters are not >> extracted from the partitions themselves. As a result, you have to figure >> out which of their "letters", corresponds to your C: drive. For example, >> sometimes, I have to select "F:" to be scanned, to actually get my >> WinXP C: to be scanned. If in doubt, just click them all. Scanning >> can be slow, and with this one, tends to slow down with time. >> >> Paul > > Thank you for taking the time with this, Paul. With additional work > last night, I did determine that the problem seems to be connected to > "uxtheme.dll" in some way. There are three different versions of that > file on my computer in three different places. By version number, which > one should I keep, and which directory is the right one (I presume > system32, but I'm not sure). Or should I chuck them all? > > Again, my thanks for making the effort on this! > > Tony I don't know how to fix it, but I have my suspicions. The only reason it came to mind, is your mention of "theme". It appears I have the same version of uxtheme.dll in CWINDOWS\system32 CWINDOWS\system32\dllcache It is 6.00.2900.5512 and appears to have come with SP3. 218,624 bytes. Perhaps if you'd used some third-party theme software, it installed or hacked your theme file ? Paul
Re: ADDITIONAL INFO RE: Data execution prevention - none of thesework! Paul wrote: > Tony wrote: >> Paul wrote: >>> Tony wrote: >>>> Sorry - here's the story to now: >>>> >>>> Tony wrote: >>>> I have been trying to simply change my desktop theme/desktop color. >>>> Every attempt to execute the change gives me the DEP message about >>>> "run >>>> .dll as an app". So I went into System Properties/Advanced/Performance >>>> and checked the box for an exception on "run .dll as an app". Reboot. >>>> Still won't allow me to do it. So I switched to "turn off DEP", >>>> which I >>>> know isn't wise, but I rebooted and it still will not let me change >>>> desktop theme, etc. A thorough online search turns up no info >>>> beyond what I've already tried. Can anyone help me solve this? >>>> Many thanks! >>>> >>>> Tony >>>> >>>> >>>> > Look at the error message again.. is it more along this line? >>>> > >>>> > "rundll.exe" or "rungll32.exe cannot be run as an application" >>>> > >>>> No, the message is: "To help protect your computer, Windows has >>>> closed >>>> this application". The application is listed as "Run .dll as an app". >>>> >>>> > Kelly has a few registry fixes at her site.. I would be surprised if >>>> > they work because of the DEP message, but they're easy-enough to >>>> try: >>>> > >>>> > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm >>>> > Line 295. Lift Active Desktop Restrictions >>>> > Line 227. Restore/Enable Screensaver Tab Settings/Display >>>> > Line 282. Enable the Appearance Tab - Display >>>> > >>>> > Look also at her Active Desktop tweaks, if you use that feature. >>>> >>>> >>>> Thank you for trying, Joe, but as you expected, they didn't help. >>>> Frustrating! >>>> >>>> Tony >>> >>> First, start by reading the article on DEP. Then, think about >>> third-party >>> packages you've been adding to the computer. Or, alternately, think >>> about >>> malware as being the source of the problem. Fiddling with the DEP >>> settings >>> themselves, doesn't seem to be much of an option, based on people trying >>> that in the past for weird problems, and getting nowhere as a result. >>> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_execution_prevention >>> >>> An example of a third-party app, might be something like "uxtheme". >>> Try a search on "uxtheme" and "dep". >>> >>> There are downloadable CDs you can get, to scan for malware >>> while Windows if offline. Perhaps one of those would help, with >>> respect to looking for a malware source for the problem. >>> >>> http://devbuilds.kaspersky-labs.com/devbuilds/RescueDisk/ >>> >>> With that one, you use a burner program that understands ISO9660 >>> files. Nero is what I use, but perhaps imgburn or cdburnerxp might >>> work. >>> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Optical_disc_authoring_software >>> >>> Once you've made the CD, set up the computer to boot from >>> CD. The KAV disc, once booted, uses DHCP to establish a connection >>> to the network, which might work if you have a cable modem or ADSL >>> modem/router set up. At least, I have mine DHCP enabled on my broadband >>> connection, and then this CD can get an IP address and get connected >>> to the Internet. Once the environment has a network connection, it will >>> download updates to the AV database, and prepare for scanning. In the >>> partitions menu, it lists drive letters, but the drive letters are not >>> extracted from the partitions themselves. As a result, you have to >>> figure >>> out which of their "letters", corresponds to your C: drive. For example, >>> sometimes, I have to select "F:" to be scanned, to actually get my >>> WinXP C: to be scanned. If in doubt, just click them all. Scanning >>> can be slow, and with this one, tends to slow down with time. >>> >>> Paul >> >> Thank you for taking the time with this, Paul. With additional work >> last night, I did determine that the problem seems to be connected to >> "uxtheme.dll" in some way. There are three different versions of that >> file on my computer in three different places. By version number, >> which one should I keep, and which directory is the right one (I >> presume system32, but I'm not sure). Or should I chuck them all? >> >> Again, my thanks for making the effort on this! >> >> Tony > > I don't know how to fix it, but I have my suspicions. The only reason > it came to mind, is your mention of "theme". > > It appears I have the same version of uxtheme.dll in > > CWINDOWS\system32 > CWINDOWS\system32\dllcache > > It is 6.00.2900.5512 and appears to have come with SP3. 218,624 bytes. > > Perhaps if you'd used some third-party theme software, it installed > or hacked your theme file ? > > Paul I thought of that, but the interesting thing is that I have never downloaded or used *ANY* theme except what's available with the original (and updated) WindowsXP. Specifically what I'd been trying to is this: I prefer a blank desktop - no wallpaper - a very, very light shade. Usually very light tan, occasionally very light blue. I used to switch back and forth between those two about once a month easily (they were both self-created "custom colors" within system properties) but suddenly I'd get that DEP slam on the brakes when I'd go to do it, telling me that the offending program was "Run .dll as an app", which is not a program at all, of course. Anyhow, a few minutes ago - after an extensive online search that told me mostly that a LOT of people have had this same problem, I found and downloaded a recommended fix called "Uxtheme Multipatcher 6.0" That seems to have solved the problem - for now, anyway. Again THANK YOU for your time and effort! Tony
In news:hrj22g$132$1@speranza.aioe.org, Paul <nospam@needed.com> typed: > Tony wrote: >> Sorry - here's the story to now: >> >> Tony wrote: >> I have been trying to simply change my desktop >> theme/desktop color. Every attempt to execute the change >> gives me the DEP message about "run .dll as an app". So I >> went into System Properties/Advanced/Performance and >> checked the box for an exception on "run .dll as an app". Reboot. Still >> won't allow me to do it. So I switched to >> "turn off DEP", which I know isn't wise, but I rebooted >> and it still will not let me change desktop theme, etc. A >> thorough online search turns up no info beyond what I've >> already tried. Can anyone help me solve this? Many >> thanks! Tony >> >> >> > Look at the error message again.. is it more along this >> line? > >> > "rundll.exe" or "rungll32.exe cannot be run as an >> application" > >> No, the message is: "To help protect your computer, >> Windows has closed this application". The application is >> listed as "Run .dll as an app". > Kelly has a few registry fixes at her >> site.. I would be >> surprised if > they work because of the DEP message, but >> they're easy-enough to try: > >> > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm >> > Line 295. Lift Active Desktop Restrictions >> > Line 227. Restore/Enable Screensaver Tab >> Settings/Display > Line 282. Enable the Appearance Tab - >> Display > >> > Look also at her Active Desktop tweaks, if you use that >> feature. Thank you for trying, Joe, but as you expected, they >> didn't help. Frustrating! >> >> Tony > > First, start by reading the article on DEP. Then, think > about third-party packages you've been adding to the > computer. Or, alternately, think about malware as being the > source of the problem. Fiddling with the DEP settings > themselves, doesn't seem to be much of an option, based on > people trying that in the past for weird problems, and > getting nowhere as a result. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_execution_prevention > > An example of a third-party app, might be something like > "uxtheme". Try a search on "uxtheme" and "dep". > > There are downloadable CDs you can get, to scan for malware > while Windows if offline. Perhaps one of those would help, > with respect to looking for a malware source for the problem. > > http://devbuilds.kaspersky-labs.com/devbuilds/RescueDisk/ > > With that one, you use a burner program that understands > ISO9660 files. Nero is what I use, but perhaps imgburn or > cdburnerxp might work. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Optical_disc_authoring_software > > Once you've made the CD, set up the computer to boot from > CD. The KAV disc, once booted, uses DHCP to establish a > connection to the network, which might work if you have a cable modem > or ADSL modem/router set up. At least, I have mine DHCP > enabled on my broadband connection, and then this CD can > get an IP address and get connected to the Internet. Once the environment > has a network > connection, it will download updates to the AV database, > and prepare for scanning. In the partitions menu, it lists > drive letters, but the drive letters are not extracted from > the partitions themselves. As a result, you have to figure > out which of their "letters", corresponds to your C: drive. > For example, sometimes, I have to select "F:" to be > scanned, to actually get my WinXP C: to be scanned. If in doubt, just > click them all. > Scanning can be slow, and with this one, tends to slow down with > time. > Paul If run .dll actually exists (with a space), it's phony! There should also be a run.dll there unless it was deleted. HTH, Twayne`