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A confession and a grumble

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Grenou

Flightless Bird
"Bob Hatch" <bob.hatch@ymail.com> wrote in message
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> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Bob Hatch" <bob.hatch@ymail.com> wrote in message
>> news:00d5ab96$0$23708$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>>> I moved my default search provider to Bing shortly after it came out and
>>> like it better than any I've used. It's new and IMO, clean. The results
>>> are "more current" than with google, yahoo, ask or several others. YMMV.
>>> :)

>>
>> Now that *is* interesting. I haven't actually used bing, I just resented
>> being made to use it!
>>
>> Well, if you say so, Bob, I suspect I will need to try it out.
>>
>> Am I about to be proved wrong again? :))
>>

> Possibly. :)
>
>

Hehe ..
It's the name that put me off.
The only 'Bing' in my book is Bing Crosby.

Grenou
 
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Ophelia

Flightless Bird
"Bob Hatch" <bob.hatch@ymail.com> wrote in message
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> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Bob Hatch" <bob.hatch@ymail.com> wrote in message
>> news:00d5ab96$0$23708$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>>> I moved my default search provider to Bing shortly after it came out and
>>> like it better than any I've used. It's new and IMO, clean. The results
>>> are "more current" than with google, yahoo, ask or several others. YMMV.
>>> :)

>>
>> Now that *is* interesting. I haven't actually used bing, I just resented
>> being made to use it!
>>
>> Well, if you say so, Bob, I suspect I will need to try it out.
>>
>> Am I about to be proved wrong again? :))
>>

> Possibly. :)


lo,l it won't be the first time:))

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Ophelia

Flightless Bird
"Grenou" <Iamhere@someofthetime.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Bob Hatch" <bob.hatch@ymail.com> wrote in message
> news:00d5e430$0$23683$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Bob Hatch" <bob.hatch@ymail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:00d5ab96$0$23708$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>>>> I moved my default search provider to Bing shortly after it came out
>>>> and like it better than any I've used. It's new and IMO, clean. The
>>>> results are "more current" than with google, yahoo, ask or several
>>>> others. YMMV. :)
>>>
>>> Now that *is* interesting. I haven't actually used bing, I just
>>> resented being made to use it!
>>>
>>> Well, if you say so, Bob, I suspect I will need to try it out.
>>>
>>> Am I about to be proved wrong again? :))
>>>

>> Possibly. :)
>>
>>

> Hehe ..
> It's the name that put me off.
> The only 'Bing' in my book is Bing Crosby.


I always loved Bing Crosby, but it was only in later years that I learned
about him really:(

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Trev

Flightless Bird
"Ophelia" <Ophelia@Elsinore.me.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "Grenou" <Iamhere@someofthetime.com> wrote in message
> news:eek:_adnX-9ZJzMnsfWnZ2dnUVZ8sednZ2d@bt.com...
>
>>> Grenou.. what are you using?

>
>> I use Google, but I am open to offers :)

>
> Yeah ... me too:)
>
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I tried it and the search results where less then Yahoo even So its booted
out
 
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Trev

Flightless Bird
"Charles Tomaras" <tomaras@tomaras.com> wrote in message
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> "Ophelia" <Ophelia@Elsinore.me.uk> wrote in message
> news:7ru6vtF257U1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>>
>> "Bob Hatch" <bob.hatch@ymail.com> wrote in message
>> news:00d5ab96$0$23708$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>>> I moved my default search provider to Bing shortly after it came out and
>>> like it better than any I've used. It's new and IMO, clean. The results
>>> are "more current" than with google, yahoo, ask or several others. YMMV.
>>> :)

>>
>> Now that *is* interesting. I haven't actually used bing, I just resented
>> being made to use it!

> \
> I find all this search toolbar stuff to be useless anyway....what's the
> big deal? I don't know how it works in the other browsers, but with IE all
> you have to do is type whatever you want to search for in the URL line and
> hit enter and it will search for it using whatever default search engine
> you have selected. Why does anyone need an additional toolbar specifically
> for search?
>


Saves having to open a browser first But then My Mouse has a search Facility
too. You just highlight the word or words copy click a little button and up
pops your search engine with the results.
 
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Ophelia

Flightless Bird
"Trev" <trev_uk@hotmail.com invalid> wrote in message
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> "Ophelia" <Ophelia@Elsinore.me.uk> wrote in message
> news:7rugh4ForrU1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>>
>> "Grenou" <Iamhere@someofthetime.com> wrote in message
>> news:eek:_adnX-9ZJzMnsfWnZ2dnUVZ8sednZ2d@bt.com...
>>
>>>> Grenou.. what are you using?

>>
>>> I use Google, but I am open to offers :)

>>
>> Yeah ... me too:)


> I tried it and the search results where less then Yahoo even So its
> booted out


Interesting! Thanks, Trev, I can see hexperiments are in order <g>


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Charles Tomaras

Flightless Bird
"Trev" <trev_uk@hotmail.com invalid> wrote in message
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>
> I tried it and the search results where less then Yahoo even So its
> booted out


What exactly does LESS mean? I really don't care if I get 20000 results or
50000 results.....I'm more interested in finding what I want. I don't think
I've scrolled further than the 2nd page of links in any browser for as long
as I can remember. If it's not on the first page of results I usually change
my search terms or lose interest in what I was searching for. I'd be happy
with a search engine that returns nothing but the 10 best results or some
other small figure of useful data.

www.bing.com does a great job for most of my general searches. The only time
I find I need to use Google or an alternate is for more scientific type of
computer error message stuff etc. And even that stuff is starting to produce
good results in bing. My bottom line is that Bing finds most everything I
need and I personally find it more pleasing in design and use than the
alternatives.
 
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Trev

Flightless Bird
"Charles Tomaras" <tomaras@tomaras.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Trev" <trev_uk@hotmail.com invalid> wrote in message
> news:1a2dnQLXIuKWi8fWnZ2dnUVZ8oGdnZ2d@pipex.net...
>
>>
>> I tried it and the search results where less then Yahoo even So its
>> booted out

>
> What exactly does LESS mean? I really don't care if I get 20000 results or
> 50000 results.....I'm more interested in finding what I want. I don't
> think I've scrolled further than the 2nd page of links in any browser for
> as long as I can remember. If it's not on the first page of results I
> usually change my search terms or lose interest in what I was searching
> for. I'd be happy with a search engine that returns nothing but the 10
> best results or some other small figure of useful data.
>
> www.bing.com does a great job for most of my general searches. The only
> time I find I need to use Google or an alternate is for more scientific
> type of computer error message stuff etc. And even that stuff is starting
> to produce good results in bing. My bottom line is that Bing finds most
> everything I need and I personally find it more pleasing in design and use
> than the alternatives.
>


Less means it did not find what I looked for
 
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Grenou

Flightless Bird
"Ophelia" <Ophelia@Elsinore.me.uk> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Grenou" <Iamhere@someofthetime.com> wrote in message
> news:po-dnW7pcsIOjcfWnZ2dnUVZ7oOdnZ2d@bt.com...
>>
>>
>> "Bob Hatch" <bob.hatch@ymail.com> wrote in message
>> news:00d5e430$0$23683$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Bob Hatch" <bob.hatch@ymail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:00d5ab96$0$23708$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>>>>> I moved my default search provider to Bing shortly after it came out
>>>>> and like it better than any I've used. It's new and IMO, clean. The
>>>>> results are "more current" than with google, yahoo, ask or several
>>>>> others. YMMV. :)
>>>>
>>>> Now that *is* interesting. I haven't actually used bing, I just
>>>> resented being made to use it!
>>>>
>>>> Well, if you say so, Bob, I suspect I will need to try it out.
>>>>
>>>> Am I about to be proved wrong again? :))
>>>>
>>> Possibly. :)
>>>
>>>

>> Hehe ..
>> It's the name that put me off.
>> The only 'Bing' in my book is Bing Crosby.

>
> I always loved Bing Crosby, but it was only in later years that I learned
> about him really:(
>
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Was he a naughty boy? I didn't know.
Loved his voice though.
Not like a search engine at all :)

Grenou
>
 
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Charles Tomaras

Flightless Bird
"Trev" <trev_uk@hotmail.com invalid> wrote in message
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>
> "Charles Tomaras" <tomaras@tomaras.com> wrote in message
> news:NXo6n.5019$CM7.2173@newsfe04.iad...
>>
>> "Trev" <trev_uk@hotmail.com invalid> wrote in message
>> news:1a2dnQLXIuKWi8fWnZ2dnUVZ8oGdnZ2d@pipex.net...
>>
>>>
>>> I tried it and the search results where less then Yahoo even So its
>>> booted out

>>
>> What exactly does LESS mean? I really don't care if I get 20000 results
>> or 50000 results.....I'm more interested in finding what I want. I don't
>> think I've scrolled further than the 2nd page of links in any browser for
>> as long as I can remember. If it's not on the first page of results I
>> usually change my search terms or lose interest in what I was searching
>> for. I'd be happy with a search engine that returns nothing but the 10
>> best results or some other small figure of useful data.
>>
>> www.bing.com does a great job for most of my general searches. The only
>> time I find I need to use Google or an alternate is for more scientific
>> type of computer error message stuff etc. And even that stuff is starting
>> to produce good results in bing. My bottom line is that Bing finds most
>> everything I need and I personally find it more pleasing in design and
>> use than the alternatives.
>>

>
> Less means it did not find what I looked for


Just curious if it's not personal, what search term were you looking for?
 
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Trev

Flightless Bird
"Charles Tomaras" <tomaras@tomaras.com> wrote in message
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> "Trev" <trev_uk@hotmail.com invalid> wrote in message
> news:K8qdnQiFkdldg8fWnZ2dnUVZ8j2dnZ2d@pipex.net...
>>
>> "Charles Tomaras" <tomaras@tomaras.com> wrote in message
>> news:NXo6n.5019$CM7.2173@newsfe04.iad...
>>>
>>> "Trev" <trev_uk@hotmail.com invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:1a2dnQLXIuKWi8fWnZ2dnUVZ8oGdnZ2d@pipex.net...
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I tried it and the search results where less then Yahoo even So its
>>>> booted out
>>>
>>> What exactly does LESS mean? I really don't care if I get 20000 results
>>> or 50000 results.....I'm more interested in finding what I want. I don't
>>> think I've scrolled further than the 2nd page of links in any browser
>>> for as long as I can remember. If it's not on the first page of results
>>> I usually change my search terms or lose interest in what I was
>>> searching for. I'd be happy with a search engine that returns nothing
>>> but the 10 best results or some other small figure of useful data.
>>>
>>> www.bing.com does a great job for most of my general searches. The only
>>> time I find I need to use Google or an alternate is for more scientific
>>> type of computer error message stuff etc. And even that stuff is
>>> starting to produce good results in bing. My bottom line is that Bing
>>> finds most everything I need and I personally find it more pleasing in
>>> design and use than the alternatives.
>>>

>>
>> Less means it did not find what I looked for

>
> Just curious if it's not personal, what search term were you looking for?
>

Myself I know I exist there for I am, But bing does not
 
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Charles Tomaras

Flightless Bird
"Trev" <trev_uk@hotmail.com invalid> wrote in message
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> "Charles Tomaras" <tomaras@tomaras.com> wrote in message
> news:Wyp6n.8445$_96.707@newsfe02.iad...
>>
>> "Trev" <trev_uk@hotmail.com invalid> wrote in message
>> news:K8qdnQiFkdldg8fWnZ2dnUVZ8j2dnZ2d@pipex.net...
>>>
>>> "Charles Tomaras" <tomaras@tomaras.com> wrote in message
>>> news:NXo6n.5019$CM7.2173@newsfe04.iad...
>>>>
>>>> "Trev" <trev_uk@hotmail.com invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:1a2dnQLXIuKWi8fWnZ2dnUVZ8oGdnZ2d@pipex.net...
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried it and the search results where less then Yahoo even So its
>>>>> booted out
>>>>
>>>> What exactly does LESS mean? I really don't care if I get 20000 results
>>>> or 50000 results.....I'm more interested in finding what I want. I
>>>> don't think I've scrolled further than the 2nd page of links in any
>>>> browser for as long as I can remember. If it's not on the first page of
>>>> results I usually change my search terms or lose interest in what I was
>>>> searching for. I'd be happy with a search engine that returns nothing
>>>> but the 10 best results or some other small figure of useful data.
>>>>
>>>> www.bing.com does a great job for most of my general searches. The only
>>>> time I find I need to use Google or an alternate is for more scientific
>>>> type of computer error message stuff etc. And even that stuff is
>>>> starting to produce good results in bing. My bottom line is that Bing
>>>> finds most everything I need and I personally find it more pleasing in
>>>> design and use than the alternatives.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Less means it did not find what I looked for

>>
>> Just curious if it's not personal, what search term were you looking for?
>>

> Myself I know I exist there for I am, But bing does not


Ok, guess it's personal, no reason to share with fellow participants on
Usenet.

Sometimes I get the feeling that some of you just don't want to use a
variety of tools...it's all or nothing. Somehow you have no choice but to
use the evil MS OS but wouldn't be caught dead saying anything positive
about any other MS products. BING and GOOGLE are not equals but they each
excel in some areas that the other doesn't. No need to boot something out. I
have a couple of different dictionaries on my book shelf and they are not
equal but complementary.

Bing is going to grow, Yahoo may continue to recede, and Google can't really
get much bigger without incurring the wrath of governance at some point
soon.
 
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Ophelia

Flightless Bird
"Grenou" <Iamhere@someofthetime.com> wrote in message
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> Was he a naughty boy? I didn't know.
> Loved his voice though.
> Not like a search engine at all :)


lol nice one:))

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