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A confession and a grumble

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Ophelia

Flightless Bird
"Andy" <a@b.c> wrote in message news:Xns9D08622E09DC4Cotd@216.196.97.131...
> "Ophelia" <Ophelia@Elsinore.me.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Andy" <a@b.c> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9D0854D39DC27Cotd@216.196.97.131...
>>> LouB <Lou@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>>> When I first came here, I was spitting blood about have to have
>>>>> Win7 on my new laptop. Well, yesterday, I found how to change
>>>>> desktop backgrounds! Whoopie I said when i saw the 'Windows
>>>>> Classic' and I changed it immediately.
>>>>>
>>>>> How drab it looked! So, I now have the 'United Kindom' background
>>>>> and what lovely photos they are:)) I have been learning more
>>>>> about where things are and I worked through a lot of stuff which
>>>>> was new to me yesterday. Would I go back to XP? Hmmm that gets
>>>>> less and less likely:)
>>>>>
>>>>> Heh who woulda thunk it:))
>>>>>
>>>>> Now for my grumble. I am having a fight with ms because it is
>>>>> determined that I shall use 'bing' and I am determined I shall
>>>>> not:) Is any one happy with it, or happier than with their previous
>>>>> search engine?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I trust the folks at Google much more than I would ever trust MS
>>>> even though Google also keeps info.
>>>
>>>
>>> If you use FF with the Ad Blocker add-on, you can enforce "Block
>>> Google Analytics".
>>
>> Thanks, Andy. I am sorted not but would you explain the FF please?
>
>
> FF = The FireFox web browser.
>
> There's probably a similar "Ad Blocker" (maybe not by the same name) add-
> on for your brand of browser.

Thanks, Andy.
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Ophelia

Flightless Bird
"Trev" <trev_uk@hotmail.com invalid> wrote in message
news:ntednVNoWYXnJMTWnZ2dnUVZ8j2dnZ2d@pipex.net...
> Google UK is a little harder to set up ( all the search providers listed
> are US)
> You have to go to Google UK enter TEST . Yes in upper case, then copy the
> answering url and paste it into the add your own in Explorer. IE8 does
> have instruction under Manage search providers then the blue text at the
> bottom "learn about search engine providers"

Thanks, Trev! I shall have a look at that:)


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A

Andy

Flightless Bird
"Ophelia" <Ophelia@Elsinore.me.uk> wrote:

>
>
> "Andy" <a@b.c> wrote in message
> news:Xns9D08622E09DC4Cotd@216.196.97.131...
>> "Ophelia" <Ophelia@Elsinore.me.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Andy" <a@b.c> wrote in message
>>> news:Xns9D0854D39DC27Cotd@216.196.97.131...
>>>> LouB <Lou@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>> When I first came here, I was spitting blood about have to have
>>>>>> Win7 on my new laptop. Well, yesterday, I found how to change
>>>>>> desktop backgrounds! Whoopie I said when i saw the 'Windows
>>>>>> Classic' and I changed it immediately.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How drab it looked! So, I now have the 'United Kindom'
>>>>>> background and what lovely photos they are:)) I have been
>>>>>> learning more about where things are and I worked through a lot
>>>>>> of stuff which was new to me yesterday. Would I go back to XP?
>>>>>> Hmmm that gets less and less likely:)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Heh who woulda thunk it:))
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now for my grumble. I am having a fight with ms because it is
>>>>>> determined that I shall use 'bing' and I am determined I shall
>>>>>> not:) Is any one happy with it, or happier than with their
>>>>>> previous search engine?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I trust the folks at Google much more than I would ever trust MS
>>>>> even though Google also keeps info.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you use FF with the Ad Blocker add-on, you can enforce "Block
>>>> Google Analytics".
>>>
>>> Thanks, Andy. I am sorted not but would you explain the FF please?
>>
>>
>> FF = The FireFox web browser.
>>
>> There's probably a similar "Ad Blocker" (maybe not by the same name)
>> add- on for your brand of browser.
>
> Thanks, Andy.


Welcome!

Andy
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B

Bob Hatch

Flightless Bird
Ophelia wrote:
> When I first came here, I was spitting blood about have to have Win7 on
> my new laptop. Well, yesterday, I found how to change desktop
> backgrounds! Whoopie I said when i saw the 'Windows Classic' and I
> changed it immediately.
>
> How drab it looked! So, I now have the 'United Kindom' background and
> what lovely photos they are:)) I have been learning more about where
> things are and I worked through a lot of stuff which was new to me
> yesterday. Would I go back to XP? Hmmm that gets less and less likely:)
>
> Heh who woulda thunk it:))
>
> Now for my grumble. I am having a fight with ms because it is
> determined that I shall use 'bing' and I am determined I shall not:) Is
> any one happy with it, or happier than with their previous search engine?
>
>
>

I moved my default search provider to Bing shortly after it came out and
like it better than any I've used. It's new and IMO, clean. The results
are "more current" than with google, yahoo, ask or several others. YMMV. :)


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of the President, or that we are to stand by
the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic
and servile, but is morally treasonable to the
American public."
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C

Charles Tomaras

Flightless Bird
"Bob Hatch" <bob.hatch@ymail.com> wrote in message
news:00d5ab96$0$23708$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
> Ophelia wrote:
>> When I first came here, I was spitting blood about have to have Win7 on
>> my new laptop. Well, yesterday, I found how to change desktop
>> backgrounds! Whoopie I said when i saw the 'Windows Classic' and I
>> changed it immediately.
>>
>> How drab it looked! So, I now have the 'United Kindom' background and
>> what lovely photos they are:)) I have been learning more about where
>> things are and I worked through a lot of stuff which was new to me
>> yesterday. Would I go back to XP? Hmmm that gets less and less
>> likely:)
>>
>> Heh who woulda thunk it:))
>>
>> Now for my grumble. I am having a fight with ms because it is determined
>> that I shall use 'bing' and I am determined I shall not:) Is any one
>> happy with it, or happier than with their previous search engine?
>>
>>
>>
>
> I moved my default search provider to Bing shortly after it came out and
> like it better than any I've used. It's new and IMO, clean. The results
> are "more current" than with google, yahoo, ask or several others. YMMV.
> :)

I'm also a BING user by default. Works wonderfully for me, clean, easy. I do
have a number of additional search providers set up in IE 8 and it's very
simple to search the alternate providers with the same search term when
needed but I don't use the alternates very often.
 
T

Trev

Flightless Bird
"Grenou" <Iamhere@someofthetime.com> wrote in message
news:krqdnVPHQ5S_JsTWnZ2dnUVZ8nmdnZ2d@bt.com...
>
>
> "Trev" <trev_uk@hotmail.com invalid> wrote in message
> news:tpGdnaNvloPpKsTWnZ2dnUVZ7vSdnZ2d@pipex.net...
>>
>> "Grenou" <Iamhere@someofthetime.com> wrote in message
>> news:SZudnY7W7ZTr6sTWnZ2dnUVZ7oednZ2d@bt.com...
> -snip-
>
>>>
>>> Windows 7 is pretty and has some nice features, I especially like the
>>> Libraries the Taskbar
>>> I use my own desktop wallpaper, but the Microsoft UK and Architecture
>>> series are gorgeous and I do switch those on every so often.
>>> But I am not wild about the way Explorer works, it can be very
>>> irritating.
>>> I am avoiding Bing and have Google set as the default search engine.
>>> On a previous computer, where I installed Windows 7 32-bit, the Google
>>> search box appeared next to the Start button, now that I have a new
>>> computer with Windows 7 64-bit, that hasn't happened.
>>> After 3 weeks of trying to figure it out how to get that box there, I
>>> have now given up.
>>>
>>
>> That was Google Desktop not search bar It still available for down load
>> But sits on the right hand side of the task bar when minimised
> ----------------
>
> Would Google Desktop have installed itself without any input from me?
> I didn't download or install it.
>
> On the W7 Home Premium 32-bit Taskbar:
> Start button/Google search box/IE/Explorer etc.
>
> No such thing this time.
> I have Googled for this, but after days of plodding through possible
> solutions and trying out what others have done, I decided that it was
> almost as quick, if less fun, to hit WEB on my keyboard :)
>
> Thanks Trev.
>
> Grenou

I used it some time back from the task bar but after a reinstall of windows
XP it was gone as expected I serched for Google search bar or whatever and
found the new one that gets added to the explore tool bar bit chocked but
thought nothing of it. and of course Explore 7 and 8 had one built in But
its only this last 2 weeks that i discovered the Google Desktop
http://desktop.google.com/
When it was first launched Many years ago it was Heralded as a Great time
saver as it can be used to search the computer not just the web and I'm sure
the downloaded news messages. Handey for finding Kris Z referances in Our
Groups
So you may have downloaded it so long ago you don't remember. Ps It now has
a side bar and gadgets but If minimized only the search entry on the task
bar.
But don't forget the win 7 search is just inside the start button and that
will open your default search engine if you click search every where .
 
O

Ophelia

Flightless Bird
"Bob Hatch" <bob.hatch@ymail.com> wrote in message
news:00d5ab96$0$23708$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
> I moved my default search provider to Bing shortly after it came out and
> like it better than any I've used. It's new and IMO, clean. The results
> are "more current" than with google, yahoo, ask or several others. YMMV.
> :)

Now that *is* interesting. I haven't actually used bing, I just resented
being made to use it!

Well, if you say so, Bob, I suspect I will need to try it out.

Am I about to be proved wrong again? :))

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Ophelia

Flightless Bird
"Charles Tomaras" <tomaras@tomaras.com> wrote in message
news:Z_k6n.616$BV.67@newsfe07.iad...
> I'm also a BING user by default. Works wonderfully for me, clean, easy. I
> do have a number of additional search providers set up in IE 8 and it's
> very simple to search the alternate providers with the same search term
> when needed but I don't use the alternates very often.

Well, that is me told:))

Thanks, Charles:)
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Dave \Crash\ Dummy

Flightless Bird
Ophelia wrote:
> "Bob Hatch" <bob.hatch@ymail.com> wrote in message
> news:00d5ab96$0$23708$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>> I moved my default search provider to Bing shortly after it came
>> out and like it better than any I've used. It's new and IMO, clean.
>> The results are "more current" than with google, yahoo, ask or
>> several others. YMMV. :)
>
> Now that *is* interesting. I haven't actually used bing, I just
> resented being made to use it!

No one is making you use Bing. That just happens to be the one provided
during installation. It is easy to add other search engines and make any
of them the default. You can even remove Bing if you want.

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English is not my native tongue; I'm an American.
 
T

Trev

Flightless Bird
"Ophelia" <Ophelia@Elsinore.me.uk> wrote in message
news:7ru6vtF257U1@mid.individual.net...
>
>
> "Bob Hatch" <bob.hatch@ymail.com> wrote in message
> news:00d5ab96$0$23708$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>> I moved my default search provider to Bing shortly after it came out and
>> like it better than any I've used. It's new and IMO, clean. The results
>> are "more current" than with google, yahoo, ask or several others. YMMV.
>> :)
>
> Now that *is* interesting. I haven't actually used bing, I just resented
> being made to use it!
>
> Well, if you say so, Bob, I suspect I will need to try it out.
>
> Am I about to be proved wrong again? :))
>
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> https://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/

To be fair Google is not what it was. Most finds lead to other search
engines and who pays the most Advertising revenue go to the top. But I still
use it Maybe I should try Chandler Bing
 
C

Charles Tomaras

Flightless Bird
"Ophelia" <Ophelia@Elsinore.me.uk> wrote in message
news:7ru6vtF257U1@mid.individual.net...
>
>
> "Bob Hatch" <bob.hatch@ymail.com> wrote in message
> news:00d5ab96$0$23708$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>> I moved my default search provider to Bing shortly after it came out and
>> like it better than any I've used. It's new and IMO, clean. The results
>> are "more current" than with google, yahoo, ask or several others. YMMV.
>> :)
>
> Now that *is* interesting. I haven't actually used bing, I just resented
> being made to use it!
\
I find all this search toolbar stuff to be useless anyway....what's the big
deal? I don't know how it works in the other browsers, but with IE all you
have to do is type whatever you want to search for in the URL line and hit
enter and it will search for it using whatever default search engine you
have selected. Why does anyone need an additional toolbar specifically for
search?
 
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Leythos

Flightless Bird
In article <7rtalfFasU1@mid.individual.net>, Ophelia@Elsinore.me.uk
says...
> Now for my grumble. I am having a fight with ms because it is determined
> that I shall use 'bing' and I am determined I shall not:) Is any one happy
> with it, or happier than with their previous search engine?
>

Bing is something you use with IE, it's not really got anything to do
with Windows 7 OS. Change your IE search provider in IE to one you like.

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voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
Trust yourself.
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Grenou

Flightless Bird
"Trev" <trev_uk@hotmail.com invalid> wrote in message
news:BPqdncKXt7SOf8TWnZ2dnUVZ8qqdnZ2d@pipex.net...
>
> "Grenou" <Iamhere@someofthetime.com> wrote in message
> news:krqdnVPHQ5S_JsTWnZ2dnUVZ8nmdnZ2d@bt.com...
>>
>>
>> "Trev" <trev_uk@hotmail.com invalid> wrote in message
>> news:tpGdnaNvloPpKsTWnZ2dnUVZ7vSdnZ2d@pipex.net...
>>>
>>> "Grenou" <Iamhere@someofthetime.com> wrote in message
>>> news:SZudnY7W7ZTr6sTWnZ2dnUVZ7oednZ2d@bt.com...
>> -snip-
>>
>>>>
>>>> Windows 7 is pretty and has some nice features, I especially like the
>>>> Libraries the Taskbar
>>>> I use my own desktop wallpaper, but the Microsoft UK and Architecture
>>>> series are gorgeous and I do switch those on every so often.
>>>> But I am not wild about the way Explorer works, it can be very
>>>> irritating.
>>>> I am avoiding Bing and have Google set as the default search engine.
>>>> On a previous computer, where I installed Windows 7 32-bit, the Google
>>>> search box appeared next to the Start button, now that I have a new
>>>> computer with Windows 7 64-bit, that hasn't happened.
>>>> After 3 weeks of trying to figure it out how to get that box there, I
>>>> have now given up.
>>>>
>>>
>>> That was Google Desktop not search bar It still available for down load
>>> But sits on the right hand side of the task bar when minimised
>> ----------------
>>
>> Would Google Desktop have installed itself without any input from me?
>> I didn't download or install it.
>>
>> On the W7 Home Premium 32-bit Taskbar:
>> Start button/Google search box/IE/Explorer etc.
>>
>> No such thing this time.
>> I have Googled for this, but after days of plodding through possible
>> solutions and trying out what others have done, I decided that it was
>> almost as quick, if less fun, to hit WEB on my keyboard :)
>>
>> Thanks Trev.
>>
>> Grenou
>
> I used it some time back from the task bar but after a reinstall of
> windows XP it was gone as expected I serched for Google search bar or
> whatever and found the new one that gets added to the explore tool bar
> bit chocked but thought nothing of it. and of course Explore 7 and 8 had
> one built in But its only this last 2 weeks that i discovered the Google
> Desktop http://desktop.google.com/
> When it was first launched Many years ago it was Heralded as a Great time
> saver as it can be used to search the computer not just the web and I'm
> sure the downloaded news messages. Handey for finding Kris Z referances in
> Our Groups
> So you may have downloaded it so long ago you don't remember. Ps It now
> has a side bar and gadgets but If minimized only the search entry on the
> task bar.
> But don't forget the win 7 search is just inside the start button and that
> will open your default search engine if you click search every where .


Thans Trev.
I use the Windows 7 Search utility all the time, it's a great time saver -
if I use the right words (!).
This is the search box I had on the 32-bit system:
http://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/google-quick-search-box-in-windows-7-taskbar/

I re-downloaded the Google toolbar, but still haven't got that search box
:-(

I have used the Google Desktop previously, but don't have it installed this
time.

Grenou
 
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Ophelia

Flightless Bird
"Dave "Crash" Dummy" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:qLl6n.2326$RS6.1493@newsfe15.iad...
> No one is making you use Bing. That just happens to be the one provided
> during installation. It is easy to add other search engines and make any
> of them the default. You can even remove Bing if you want.

Oh yes:) I have removed it, but I am now questioning that. I hated Win7 to
begin with too:)


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Ophelia

Flightless Bird
"Trev" <trev_uk@hotmail.com invalid> wrote in message
news:6aGdnQfubq5cdcTWnZ2dnUVZ7oidnZ2d@pipex.net...
> To be fair Google is not what it was. Most finds lead to other search
> engines and who pays the most Advertising revenue go to the top. But I
> still use it Maybe I should try Chandler Bing

Hmm I will if you will:)

Grenou.. what are you using?


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Ophelia

Flightless Bird
"Charles Tomaras" <tomaras@tomaras.com> wrote in message
news:7Wl6n.5496$Np1.3358@newsfe19.iad...
>
> "Ophelia" <Ophelia@Elsinore.me.uk> wrote in message
> news:7ru6vtF257U1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>>
>> "Bob Hatch" <bob.hatch@ymail.com> wrote in message
>> news:00d5ab96$0$23708$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>>> I moved my default search provider to Bing shortly after it came out and
>>> like it better than any I've used. It's new and IMO, clean. The results
>>> are "more current" than with google, yahoo, ask or several others. YMMV.
>>> :)
>>
>> Now that *is* interesting. I haven't actually used bing, I just resented
>> being made to use it!
> \
> I find all this search toolbar stuff to be useless anyway....what's the
> big deal? I don't know how it works in the other browsers, but with IE all
> you have to do is type whatever you want to search for in the URL line and
> hit enter and it will search for it using whatever default search engine
> you have selected. Why does anyone need an additional toolbar specifically
> for search?

Dunno! I am new at all this stuff:)

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Ophelia

Flightless Bird
"Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.25c3ba4a343d240798a0ca@us.news.astraweb.com...
> In article <7rtalfFasU1@mid.individual.net>, Ophelia@Elsinore.me.uk
> says...
>> Now for my grumble. I am having a fight with ms because it is determined
>> that I shall use 'bing' and I am determined I shall not:) Is any one
>> happy
>> with it, or happier than with their previous search engine?
>>
>
> Bing is something you use with IE, it's not really got anything to do
> with Windows 7 OS. Change your IE search provider in IE to one you like.

I am getting there:)

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Grenou

Flightless Bird
"Ophelia" <Ophelia@Elsinore.me.uk> wrote in message
news:7ructhF4o7U2@mid.individual.net...
>
>
> "Trev" <trev_uk@hotmail.com invalid> wrote in message
> news:6aGdnQfubq5cdcTWnZ2dnUVZ7oidnZ2d@pipex.net...
>> To be fair Google is not what it was. Most finds lead to other search
>> engines and who pays the most Advertising revenue go to the top. But I
>> still use it Maybe I should try Chandler Bing
>
> Hmm I will if you will:)
>
> Grenou.. what are you using?
>
>
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> --
> https://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/

I use Google, but I am open to offers :)

Grenou
 
B

Bob Hatch

Flightless Bird
Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Bob Hatch" <bob.hatch@ymail.com> wrote in message
> news:00d5ab96$0$23708$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>> I moved my default search provider to Bing shortly after it came out
>> and like it better than any I've used. It's new and IMO, clean. The
>> results are "more current" than with google, yahoo, ask or several
>> others. YMMV. :)
>
> Now that *is* interesting. I haven't actually used bing, I just
> resented being made to use it!
>
> Well, if you say so, Bob, I suspect I will need to try it out.
>
> Am I about to be proved wrong again? :))
>
Possibly. :)


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"To announce that there must be no criticism
of the President, or that we are to stand by
the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic
and servile, but is morally treasonable to the
American public."
Theodore Roosevelt
http://www.bobhatch.com
http://www.tdsrvresort.com
 
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