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98SE to XPsp2 Leftovers

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by R. D., Mar 28, 2010.

  1. R. D.

    R. D. Flightless Bird

    Hello,

    One of our machines was a 98SE box that was upgraded to XP with an 'XP Home
    SP2 Upgrade' CD a few years back. Worked great and still does, except that
    it uses about 15G of hard drive (has since the upgrade) even after
    uninstalling un-needed software. This is on a smallish drive with three
    partitions that now hit a remote network storage. I am planning on resizing
    some partitions to give that system some breathing room so to speak. I was
    taught way back that an OS should never take up more than 50% of it's
    partition and I'd like to restore that ratio.

    Q: I seem to recall that there are files that are saved during an upgrade
    installation just in case you didn't like the results. What are they and can
    they be deleted now? Will they provide much free space?


    Thanks.
     
  2. LD55ZRA

    LD55ZRA Flightless Bird

    "R. D." <raldonn3@HotPOP.com> wrote in message
    news:%239Vq4UuzKHA.5936@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    > Hello,
    >


    > Q: I seem to recall that there are files that are saved during an upgrade
    > installation just in case you didn't like the results. What are they and
    > can they be deleted now? Will they provide much free space?


    Unlikely because Windows 98SE was too small to start with. What I am not
    sure is why can't you not do a clean install of WinXP using whatever CD you
    have got. With Upgrade CD you can still do a clean install if you plan it
    properly. The only snag is you need to backup your own data like emails,
    pictures, music and documents. Also, you will need the original CDs/Disks
    for application packages with serial numbers to install them.

    When you have finished installing WinXP and SP3 (I suggest download the full
    file version before doing anything), you should stop Automatic Updates and
    instead re-configure your Windows firewall so that "No exceptions are
    allowed". Then you also need to install a free Anti-Virus program from
    Microsoft called MSE with update definitions file. This method will
    definitely make sure you have enough disk space on your system and the
    system is completely secure within reasons. Automatic updates makes lots of
    backups that are completely unnecessary unless Microsoft thinks you need
    them because the updates themselves are useless to start with!

    I am running WinXP professional on my old machine (20GB HD space and 512 MB
    ram) which had Windows 98 SE and it is quite sufficient for my testing work.
    I have two other machines with Windows Vista and Windows 7 but these are
    brand new machines with ample disk space and RAM so there is no problems
    with these.

    hth
     
  3. Bernd

    Bernd Flightless Bird

    -------- Original-Nachricht --------

    > Hello,
    >
    > One of our machines was a 98SE box that was upgraded to XP with an 'XP Home
    > SP2 Upgrade' CD a few years back. Worked great and still does, except that
    > it uses about 15G of hard drive (has since the upgrade) even after
    > uninstalling un-needed software. This is on a smallish drive with three
    > partitions that now hit a remote network storage. I am planning on resizing
    > some partitions to give that system some breathing room so to speak. I was
    > taught way back that an OS should never take up more than 50% of it's
    > partition and I'd like to restore that ratio.
    >
    > Q: I seem to recall that there are files that are saved during an upgrade
    > installation just in case you didn't like the results. What are they and can
    > they be deleted now? Will they provide much free space?
    >
    >
    > Thanks.



    Look here:

    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/956324

    Bernd
     
  4. R. D.

    R. D. Flightless Bird

    "Bernd" <fake@gmx.de> wrote in message
    news:-OTAGTvzzKHA.2552@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >
    >
    > -------- Original-Nachricht --------
    >
    >> Hello,
    >>
    >> One of our machines was a 98SE box that was upgraded to XP with an 'XP
    >> Home SP2 Upgrade' CD a few years back. Worked great and still does,
    >> except that it uses about 15G of hard drive (has since the upgrade) even
    >> after uninstalling un-needed software. This is on a smallish drive with
    >> three partitions that now hit a remote network storage. I am planning on
    >> resizing some partitions to give that system some breathing room so to
    >> speak. I was taught way back that an OS should never take up more than
    >> 50% of it's partition and I'd like to restore that ratio.
    >>
    >> Q: I seem to recall that there are files that are saved during an upgrade
    >> installation just in case you didn't like the results. What are they and
    >> can they be deleted now? Will they provide much free space?
    >>
    >>
    >> Thanks.

    >
    >
    > Look here:
    >
    > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/956324
    >
    > Bernd


    Yeppers... that did it. Forgot that it was as easy to find as the disk
    cleanup button. They were there indeed, and all in all I freed over 2 Gigs.
    The defrag afterward was a looonnnnnngggg one though... .. .

    I still may run Partition Tragic on it and move a few more gigs it's way.


    Thank you.
     
  5. R. D.

    R. D. Flightless Bird

    "LD55ZRA" <LD55ZRA@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:hop9hg$9al$1@speranza.aioe.org...
    >
    > "R. D." <raldonn3@HotPOP.com> wrote in message
    > news:%239Vq4UuzKHA.5936@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >> Hello,
    >>

    >
    >> Q: I seem to recall that there are files that are saved during an upgrade
    >> installation just in case you didn't like the results. What are they and
    >> can they be deleted now? Will they provide much free space?

    >
    > Unlikely because Windows 98SE was too small to start with. What I am not
    > sure is why can't you not do a clean install of WinXP using whatever CD
    > you have got. With Upgrade CD you can still do a clean install if you
    > plan it properly. The only snag is you need to backup your own data like
    > emails, pictures, music and documents. Also, you will need the original
    > CDs/Disks for application packages with serial numbers to install them.
    >
    > When you have finished installing WinXP and SP3 (I suggest download the
    > full file version before doing anything), you should stop Automatic
    > Updates and instead re-configure your Windows firewall so that "No
    > exceptions are allowed". Then you also need to install a free Anti-Virus
    > program from Microsoft called MSE with update definitions file. This
    > method will definitely make sure you have enough disk space on your system
    > and the system is completely secure within reasons. Automatic updates
    > makes lots of backups that are completely unnecessary unless Microsoft
    > thinks you need them because the updates themselves are useless to start
    > with!
    >
    > I am running WinXP professional on my old machine (20GB HD space and 512
    > MB ram) which had Windows 98 SE and it is quite sufficient for my testing
    > work. I have two other machines with Windows Vista and Windows 7 but these
    > are brand new machines with ample disk space and RAM so there is no
    > problems with these.
    >
    > hth
    >
    >



    Thanks for replying.

    Yes... I suppose that I could blow away a perfectly fine installation
    instead of doing some disk maintenance or moving a partition if need be,
    but... wouldn't that be like hunting chipmunks with a bazooka? Heck... even
    if a drive couldn't be made more spacious, an 80 or 120 G drive can be had
    for peanuts and it would only take Acronis about an hour to image it and
    distribute the new free space evenly. Reinstalling the OS after making
    backups, followed by the apps and then reapplying all the personalized
    settings and then the long process of reinstalling all of those plugins
    before shopping your next set of photos is a long way to go, IMO, just to
    free a little space.

    Thanks again for your efforts.
     

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