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64 bit Newsreader

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Tim Slattery

Flightless Bird
LouB <Lou@invalid.invalid> wrote:


>I don't know what "boneless" is but I do know a fair amount about
>computers and you will NEVER need what a 64 bit program does for reading
>and replying to news in usenet.

Agreed but... when the transition fro 16-bit to 32-bit computing was
happening, the same argument was raised. Now all programs are 32-bit,
nobody in his or her right mind would release a 16-bit version. The
same thing will eventually happen with 64-bit computing.

--
Tim Slattery
Slattery_T@bls.gov
http://members.cox.net/slatteryt
 
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Mike

Flightless Bird
"LouB" <Lou@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:4C6A77C3.5040904@invalid.invalid...
> Richard Colton wrote:
>>
>>
>> "LouB" <Lou@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:4C6932BC.1020706@invalid.invalid...
>>> Turtle wrote:
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know if there is a 64 bit Newsreader for Windows 7 64 bit?
>>>>
>>>> My old 32 bit Reader is slow.
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>> There is absolutely no need for a 64 bit program to read news.
>>
>> Really? Try pulling a few days worth of headers for boneless and see
>> what happens.
>>
>> To answer the original question, Newsbin has a 64bit version.
>>
> I don't know what "boneless" is but I do know a fair amount about
> computers and you will NEVER need what a 64 bit program does for reading
> and replying to news in usenet.

Alt.binaries.boneless is a high volume newsgroup, which it seems Giganews
dropped.
In response to a$$hole Andy, if you try to download more than 3,500,000
headers, XNews chokes and freezes.

--

"Don't pick a fight with an old man.
If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."
 
C

Carroll Robbins

Flightless Bird
LouB <Lou@invalid.invalid> wrote on Tue, 17 Aug 2010 07:51:31 -0400 in
<4C6A77C3.5040904@invalid.invalid>

>Richard Colton wrote:
>
>
>> Really? Try pulling a few days worth of headers for boneless and see
>> what happens.
>> To answer the original question, Newsbin has a 64bit version.
>
>I don't know what "boneless" is but I do know a fair amount about
>computers and you will NEVER need what a 64 bit program does for reading
>and replying to news in usenet.

Alt.binaries.boneless is a very active Usenet group. It's article numbers
require 64 bits, they're too large for signed 32 bit numbers. Most users
access articles by Message-ID rather than Article number. It contains
multi-gigabyte files. Binary Usenet readers would benefit from 64 bits but
don't require it.
--
Carroll B. Robbins, Jr.
 
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Ignacio Shagnasty

Flightless Bird
"LouB" <Lou@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:4C6A77C3.5040904@invalid.invalid...
> Richard Colton wrote:
>>
>>
>> "LouB" <Lou@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:4C6932BC.1020706@invalid.invalid...
>>> Turtle wrote:
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know if there is a 64 bit Newsreader for Windows 7 64 bit?
>>>>
>>>> My old 32 bit Reader is slow.
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>> There is absolutely no need for a 64 bit program to read news.
>>
>> Really? Try pulling a few days worth of headers for boneless and see
>> what happens.
>>
>> To answer the original question, Newsbin has a 64bit version.
>>
> I don't know what "boneless" is but I do know a fair amount about
> computers and you will NEVER need what a 64 bit program does for reading
> and replying to news in usenet.

When you go to the store you can get Chicken - With bones or boneless. You
pay more for boneless because there is more work involved in packaging and
preparing the product. As far as I know there is no 64 bit boneless
chicken.
 
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LouB

Flightless Bird
Carroll Robbins wrote:
> LouB <Lou@invalid.invalid> wrote on Tue, 17 Aug 2010 07:51:31 -0400 in
> <4C6A77C3.5040904@invalid.invalid>
>
>> Richard Colton wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Really? Try pulling a few days worth of headers for boneless and see
>>> what happens.
>>> To answer the original question, Newsbin has a 64bit version.
>> I don't know what "boneless" is but I do know a fair amount about
>> computers and you will NEVER need what a 64 bit program does for reading
>> and replying to news in usenet.
>
> Alt.binaries.boneless is a very active Usenet group. It's article numbers
> require 64 bits, they're too large for signed 32 bit numbers. Most users
> access articles by Message-ID rather than Article number. It contains
> multi-gigabyte files. Binary Usenet readers would benefit from 64 bits but
> don't require it.

Thanks
 
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Ken Blake

Flightless Bird
On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 09:07:11 -0400, Tim Slattery <Slattery_T@bls.gov>
wrote:

> LouB <Lou@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>
> >I don't know what "boneless" is but I do know a fair amount about
> >computers and you will NEVER need what a 64 bit program does for reading
> >and replying to news in usenet.
>
> Agreed but... when the transition fro 16-bit to 32-bit computing was
> happening, the same argument was raised. Now all programs are 32-bit,
> nobody in his or her right mind would release a 16-bit version. The
> same thing will eventually happen with 64-bit computing.


I agree completely, but since newsgroups are dying, it may also be
that nobody in his or her right mind would release a newsreader of any
"bitness."
 
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Char Jackson

Flightless Bird
On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 08:01:33 -0700, Ken Blake
<kblake@this.is.invalid.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 09:07:11 -0400, Tim Slattery <Slattery_T@bls.gov>
>wrote:
>
>> LouB <Lou@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>
>> >I don't know what "boneless" is but I do know a fair amount about
>> >computers and you will NEVER need what a 64 bit program does for reading
>> >and replying to news in usenet.
>>
>> Agreed but... when the transition fro 16-bit to 32-bit computing was
>> happening, the same argument was raised. Now all programs are 32-bit,
>> nobody in his or her right mind would release a 16-bit version. The
>> same thing will eventually happen with 64-bit computing.
>
>
>I agree completely, but since newsgroups are dying, it may also be
>that nobody in his or her right mind would release a newsreader of any
>"bitness."

Text-based discussion groups may be showing signs of slowing, but the
binary groups are growing at a tremendous pace. Last I heard, there
was over 6 Terabytes of new binary data uploaded every day and the
continued growth is astounding.
 
K

Ken Blake

Flightless Bird
On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 11:51:39 -0500, Char Jackson <none@none.invalid>
wrote:


> >I agree completely, but since newsgroups are dying, it may also be
> >that nobody in his or her right mind would release a newsreader of any
> >"bitness."
>
> Text-based discussion groups may be showing signs of slowing, but the
> binary groups are growing at a tremendous pace. Last I heard, there
> was over 6 Terabytes of new binary data uploaded every day and the
> continued growth is astounding.


Interesting, thanks. I didn't know that.
 
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Sunny Bard

Flightless Bird
Mike wrote:

> Alt.binaries.boneless is a high volume newsgroup, which it seems
> Giganews dropped.
> In response to a$$hole Andy, if you try to download more than 3,500,000
> headers, XNews chokes and freezes.

I suspect at this point, most people clinging on to usenet don't give a
toss about people wanting binary froups ..
 
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Yousuf Khan

Flightless Bird
On 17/08/2010 7:51 AM, LouB wrote:
> I don't know what "boneless" is but I do know a fair amount about
> computers and you will NEVER need what a 64 bit program does for reading
> and replying to news in usenet.

Binary groups can easily overflow a 32-bit newsreader's database. The
database files can easily go over 4GB.

Yousuf Khan
 
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Yousuf Khan

Flightless Bird
On 16/08/2010 8:24 AM, Turtle wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> Does anyone know if there is a 64 bit Newsreader for Windows 7 64 bit?
>
> My old 32 bit Reader is slow.
>
> John

Don't know if they are 32-bit or 64-bit, but these are the ones
recommended by Giganews.

Giganews - Newsreader Specials
http://www.giganews.com/newsreader_specials.html

Yousuf Khan
 
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Char Jackson

Flightless Bird
On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 20:19:21 +0100, Sunny Bard <sunnybard@txinfo.org>
wrote:

>Mike wrote:
>
>> Alt.binaries.boneless is a high volume newsgroup, which it seems
>> Giganews dropped.
>> In response to a$$hole Andy, if you try to download more than 3,500,000
>> headers, XNews chokes and freezes.
>
>I suspect at this point, most people clinging on to usenet don't give a
>toss about people wanting binary froups ..

I suspect most people these days are here for the binaries. Web forums
(yuck) and other means of communicating have steadily eaten away the
Usenet text discussion groups.
 
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Turtle

Flightless Bird
Hi,
>> To answer the original question, Newsbin has a 64bit version.
>

OL, I see it now.


Thanx!
John
 
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Leythos

Flightless Bird
In article <93e22$4c692de7$6d5a1439$31367@news1.surfino.com>,
mhauserj@googlemail.com says...
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Does anyone know if there is a 64 bit Newsreader for Windows 7 64 bit?
>
> My old 32 bit Reader is slow.

I use an old x32 program called Gravity on Win 7 x64 and it's just as
fast as it was under XP.

--
You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little
voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
Trust yourself.
spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
 
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